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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] store-free path walking
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 09:39:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091008073930.GZ30316@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091007222235.GC1656@one.firstfloor.org>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 12:22:35AM +0200, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 02:57:20PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > There's no question that prefetching cannot help, but it helps only if 
> > it's about fetching data that you would need anyway early. In contrast, if 
> > the option is "don't touch the other cacheline at all", prefetching is 
> > _always_ a loss. No ifs, buts and maybes about it.
> 
> My point (probably not very well written expressed)
> was that in a typical VFS operation there are hundreds
> of cache lines touched for various things (code, global, various
> objects, random stuff) and one more or less in the final dentry 
> is not that big a difference in the global picture.
> (ok I realize final in this case means the elements in the path)

Yes I do know what you were getting at... Although I would
say dcache is still fairly significant. It's 3 cachelines
for every single path element we look up. Now I suspect it
has been a while since someone closely looked at the cache
layout with an eye to the lookup code.

Actually no, it does look relatively sane (I guess it doesn't
change that much), except it might actualy be a nice idea
to move d_iname up to about above d_lru, so we could actually
do path lookup in 2 cachelines per entry (or even 1 if we
they have very short names).

I will do a bit of profiling on the lookup code and see...


  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-08  7:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-06  6:49 Latest vfs scalability patch Nick Piggin
2009-10-06 10:14 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 10:26   ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 11:10     ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-06 12:51       ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 12:26   ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-06 12:49     ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-07  8:58       ` [rfc][patch] store-free path walking Nick Piggin
2009-10-07  9:56         ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-07 10:10           ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12  3:58           ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12  5:59             ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12  8:20               ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-12 11:00                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-13  1:26             ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-13  1:52               ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-07 14:56         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 16:27           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 16:46             ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-07 19:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 20:34                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 20:51                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 21:06                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 21:20                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 21:57                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 22:22                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-08  7:39                             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-10-09 17:53                               ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-08 13:12                           ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-10-09  7:47                             ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 17:49                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 16:29           ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 12:36           ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 12:57             ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-08 13:22               ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 13:30                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-08 18:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09  4:04                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  8:54                 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09  9:51                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:02                     ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 10:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:07                   ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  3:50             ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  6:15               ` David Miller
2009-10-09 10:40                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 11:09                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:44                 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 10:48                   ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 23:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-15 10:08 ` Latest vfs scalability patch Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 10:39   ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 10:46     ` Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 10:53   ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 11:23     ` Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 11:41       ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 11:48         ` Nick Piggin

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