From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Sriram Ramkrishna <sri@ramkrishna.me>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091008172123.GA24911@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf63d7240910080919nf1bf6d0rd94f671d0645f674@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:19:13AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:09 AM, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Currently, the code is implemented only to support Linux namespace.name
> > xattrs in the "user" namespace. It could be extended to support other
> > similar name/value pair xattr implementations (and not far from IRIX wire
> > compat), although that's not an aim of this version. There may also be
> > some scope for limited support of system xattrs (e.g. 'dumb' security
> > label transport), although I've not looked beyond user.* so far.
> >
> >
> James this is great news. I personally am interested (as a consumer) in
> setting up better ACL list (ala AFS) than the POSIX model we have now and
> trying to implement it using xattr might be the right way. But my
> frustration of course was that everybody did xattr in different ways and no
> filesystem implementer wanted to go on a limb and implemented such things
> without a RFC.
Yes, we could allow applications on the client to access essentially
arbitrary filesystem-specific functionality. However, this also would
allow applications to become dependent on particular features of the
exported filesystem. There's some question whether we'd really want to
do that.
I assume that it was in order to avoid that question that this initial
implementation only exports the user.* namespace, since xattr's in that
name space are by design not given any special interpretation by the
filesystem--they just store and return opaque data.
--b.
>
>
> >
> > Note that I'll be giving a talk on this at LinuxCon on Thursday:
> > http://linuxcon.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/1589 So, in addition to
> > discussion here, please come along to the talk if you're at the conf, and
> > we may also be able to discuss it at Plumbers in one of the BoFs.
> >
>
>
> Ah, I was there, and I was asking around wanting to talk about the issue!
> Ah well.
>
> sri
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-08 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-19 15:09 [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol James Morris
2009-09-19 15:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
2009-09-19 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
2009-09-19 15:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2009-09-19 15:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0909200020360.31818-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-19 17:30 ` [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <4AB51538.7060201-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-20 5:13 ` James Morris
2009-09-22 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-22 13:03 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0909222253470.21052-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-22 13:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-06 15:18 ` Peter Staubach
[not found] ` <4ACB5FC0.7060307-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-09 0:39 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910091132130.32154-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-09 23:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-12 17:50 ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-12 19:26 ` Tom Haynes
[not found] ` <CA06CB5C-6084-45AA-B185-FBDA7E3B9754-8AdZ+HgO7noAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:34 ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-12 22:55 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1255388158.3711.57.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 23:08 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-13 7:02 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910131733070.28896-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13 18:27 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1255458444.3711.113.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 0:48 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910141134410.4671-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 2:05 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-10-14 4:30 ` James Morris
[not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910141526530.5279-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 4:50 ` Casey Schaufler
[not found] ` <4AD55879.2060207-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 12:46 ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-14 4:56 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-14 6:02 ` James Morris
2009-10-14 15:05 ` Tyler Hicks
[not found] ` <bf63d7240910080919nf1bf6d0rd94f671d0645f674@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-08 17:21 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-10-09 0:31 ` James Morris
2009-10-08 17:22 ` J. Bruce Fields
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20091008172123.GA24911@fieldses.org \
--to=bfields@fieldses.org \
--cc=casey@schaufler-ca.com \
--cc=hch@infradead.org \
--cc=jmorris@namei.org \
--cc=linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=sri@ramkrishna.me \
--cc=trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).