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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Sriram Ramkrishna <sri@ramkrishna.me>
Cc: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2009 13:21:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091008172123.GA24911@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bf63d7240910080919nf1bf6d0rd94f671d0645f674@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 09:19:13AM -0700, Sriram Ramkrishna wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 8:09 AM, James Morris <jmorris@namei.org> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Currently, the code is implemented only to support Linux namespace.name
> > xattrs in the "user" namespace.  It could be extended to support other
> > similar name/value pair xattr implementations (and not far from IRIX wire
> > compat), although that's not an aim of this version.  There may also be
> > some scope for limited support of system xattrs (e.g. 'dumb' security
> > label transport), although I've not looked beyond user.* so far.
> >
> >
> James this is great news.  I personally am interested (as a consumer) in
> setting up better ACL list (ala AFS) than the POSIX model we have now and
> trying to implement it using xattr might be the right way.  But my
> frustration of course was that everybody did xattr in different ways and no
> filesystem implementer wanted to go on a limb and implemented such things
> without a RFC.

Yes, we could allow applications on the client to access essentially
arbitrary filesystem-specific functionality.  However, this also would
allow applications to become dependent on particular features of the
exported filesystem.  There's some question whether we'd really want to
do that.

I assume that it was in order to avoid that question that this initial
implementation only exports the user.* namespace, since xattr's in that
name space are by design not given any special interpretation by the
filesystem--they just store and return opaque data.

--b.

> 
> 
> >
> > Note that I'll be giving a talk on this at LinuxCon on Thursday:
> > http://linuxcon.linuxfoundation.org/meetings/1589 So, in addition to
> > discussion here, please come along to the talk if you're at the conf, and
> > we may also be able to discuss it at Plumbers in one of the BoFs.
> >
> 
> 
> Ah, I was there, and I was asking around wanting to talk about the issue!
> Ah well.
> 
> sri

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-10-08 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-09-19 15:09 [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol James Morris
2009-09-19 15:11 ` [PATCH 1/4] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
2009-09-19 15:12 ` [PATCH 2/4] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
2009-09-19 15:13 ` [PATCH 3/4] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2009-09-19 15:14 ` [PATCH 4/4] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
     [not found] ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0909200020360.31818-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-19 17:30   ` [PATCH 0/4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute (XATTR) protocol Casey Schaufler
     [not found]     ` <4AB51538.7060201-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-20  5:13       ` James Morris
2009-09-22 12:47         ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-09-22 13:03           ` James Morris
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0909222253470.21052-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-09-22 13:07               ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-06 15:18   ` Peter Staubach
     [not found]     ` <4ACB5FC0.7060307-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-09  0:39       ` James Morris
     [not found]         ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910091132130.32154-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-09 23:14           ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-12 17:50           ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-12 19:26             ` Tom Haynes
     [not found]               ` <CA06CB5C-6084-45AA-B185-FBDA7E3B9754-8AdZ+HgO7noAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 19:34                 ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-12 22:55                   ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                     ` <1255388158.3711.57.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-12 23:08                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-13  7:02                     ` James Morris
     [not found]                       ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910131733070.28896-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-13 18:27                         ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                           ` <1255458444.3711.113.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  0:48                             ` James Morris
     [not found]                               ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910141134410.4671-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  2:05                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-10-14  4:30                                   ` James Morris
     [not found]                                     ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.0910141526530.5279-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14  4:50                                       ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                                         ` <4AD55879.2060207-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2009-10-14 12:46                                           ` Peter Staubach
2009-10-14  4:56                                 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-10-14  6:02                                   ` James Morris
2009-10-14 15:05                               ` Tyler Hicks
     [not found] ` <bf63d7240910080919nf1bf6d0rd94f671d0645f674@mail.gmail.com>
2009-10-08 17:21   ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-10-09  0:31     ` James Morris
2009-10-08 17:22   ` J. Bruce Fields

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