From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Ravikiran G Thirumalai <kiran@scalex86.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] store-free path walking
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 09:47:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091009074719.GE2983@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1158166a0910080612h29d93d50y875d5305cd4d985f@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Oct 08, 2009 at 03:12:08PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Linus Torvalds
> <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> > This, btw, is exactly the kind of thing we saw with some of the
> > non-temporal work, when we used nontemporal stores to copy pages on COW
> > faults, or when doing pre-zeroing of pages. You get rid of some of the
> > hot-spots in the kernel, and you then replace them with user space taking
> > the cache misses in random spots instead. The kernel profile looks better,
> > and system time may go down, but actual performace never went down - you
> > just moved your cache miss cost from one place to another.
>
> A few years ago when K7s were not ancient yet, after hearing
> argument for and against non-temporal stores,
> I decided to finally figure it for myself.
>
> I tested kernel build workload on two kernels with the only
> one difference - clear_page with and without non-temporal stores.
>
> "Non-temporal stores" kernel was faster, not slower. Just a little bit,
> but reproducibly.
It is going to be highly dependent on architecture and workload and
exactly where you use the nontemporal stores of course. I would say
with non-temporal stores in clear_page (a case where we can often
expect the memory to be used again quickly because it is anonymous
process memory), then we are quite likely to cause _more_ activity
on the memory controller and dimms which cost far more power than
cache access.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-09 7:47 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-06 6:49 Latest vfs scalability patch Nick Piggin
2009-10-06 10:14 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 10:26 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 11:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-06 12:51 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-06 12:26 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-06 12:49 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-07 8:58 ` [rfc][patch] store-free path walking Nick Piggin
2009-10-07 9:56 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-07 10:10 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12 3:58 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12 5:59 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-12 8:20 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-12 11:00 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-13 1:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-10-13 1:52 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-07 14:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 16:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 16:46 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-07 19:25 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 20:34 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 20:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 21:06 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 21:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 21:57 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-10-07 22:22 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-08 7:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 17:53 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-08 13:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-10-09 7:47 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-10-09 17:49 ` Andi Kleen
2009-10-07 16:29 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 12:36 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 12:57 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-08 13:22 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-08 13:30 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-08 18:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-10-09 4:04 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 8:54 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 9:51 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:02 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 10:08 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:07 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 3:50 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 6:15 ` David Miller
2009-10-09 10:40 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 11:09 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 10:44 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 10:48 ` Jens Axboe
2009-10-09 23:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2009-10-15 10:08 ` Latest vfs scalability patch Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 10:39 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 10:46 ` Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 10:53 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 11:23 ` Anton Blanchard
2009-10-15 11:41 ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-15 11:48 ` Nick Piggin
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