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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Ian Kent <raven@themaw.net>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, autofs@linux.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [rfc][patch] fs: dcache remove d_mounted
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 10:07:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091009080709.GA17818@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4ACEED94.6040002@themaw.net>

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 04:00:20PM +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 01:47:20PM +0800, Ian Kent wrote:
> >> Nick Piggin wrote:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I'd just like to ask you to look at autofs4 in the context of this change.
> >>> I don't really know what needs to be considered there. If this is a
> >>> generally visible dentry that any other users may mount filesystems on,
> >>> then this might be difficult to get working here.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not quite sure what games you're playing here with d_mounted... In the
> >>> simplest case we might be able to just remove DCACHE_MOUNTED.
> >> Hahaha, "games", harsh but true.
> >>
> >> My need is fairly simple really.
> >>
> >> I must be able to stop the follow down at the mount point for some cases
> >> of a covered dentry. Which, IIRC, means that d_mountpoint() needs to be
> >> sensitive to this requirement, and that's about all.
> >>
> >> This was always questionable, but seemed like the best way to do it at
> >> the time, without adding autofs specific code to the VFS. Since we are
> >> changing this part of the VFS now with this patch, it is a good time to
> >> fix it in a generic non-autofs specific way.
> > 
> > I guess you could have a flag in the vfsmount which you could then set
> > to have lookup_mnt (and hence follow_mount etc) ignore it.
> > 
> > Unsetting / decrementing d_mounted I guess works, but I would just
> > be worried if other mounts can be attached to the dentry then you
> > might ignore that other mount or even follow your autofs mount.i
> > 
> > If there is no way to have anything else mounted here, then there
> > shouldn't be a problem and indeed unsetting d_mounted might be the
> > easiest approach. However you still have to be careful of a racing
> > lookup that has found d_mounted to be true, but is yet to look up
> > the mount hash table -- that might be tricky and is a case where
> > the vfsmount flag approach should work better.
> 
> My original description was a bit simple mined.
> 
> This is only ever done for dentrys in the autofs fs.
> 
> Although I won't go into the ongoing and difficult problem of submounts,
> when this is done for the common case all user space walks are blocked
> waiting on the expire while the daemon does the umount. The reason it
> needs to be done at all is because autofs mount types AUTOFS_TYPE_DIRECT
> and AUTOFS_TYPE_OFFSET are such that the autofs fs is mounted on the
> host dentry (that may also be another autofs fs) and another mount (that
> is being expired in this case) is mounted on top of that. Hence path
> walks skips right over the top of the dentry and into the expiring mount.

OK, that makes some sense to me ;) If nothing else can meddle
with the dentry (like attaching a mount to it) then I see no
problem with just clearing d_mounted.


> >>> Anyway this would be great if we can make it work so I can replace the
> >>> member with d_seq for my path walk patches and not bloat dentry. Can you
> >>> take a look please if you have a chance?
> >> Sure, let me have a look around and think about it for a while.
> >>
> >> >From a quick look it appears that all I could just change the
> >> DCACHE_MOUNTED flag and check the actual mounted status when restoring it.
> > 
> > OK, thanks. I'll do that as an intermediate hack here, and if you
> > find a problem with it or if we devise a better generic approach,
> > then I'll rip it out.
> 
> Ummm .. I don't seem to be able to cleanly apply this patch to a linus
> tree or an mm tree?
> 
> Is there a git repo I can use to work on this?

Yeah I will redo it against mainline and send it out again. I will
get around to doing a git tree of the vfs scalability stuff after
I get the series in a bit more reasonable shape... I'll need you to
look at that too because autofs4 does a lot of meddling with
dcache_lock ;)

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-09  8:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-09  2:56 [rfc][patch] fs: dcache remove d_mounted Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  5:47 ` Ian Kent
2009-10-09  7:42   ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  8:00     ` Ian Kent
2009-10-09  8:07       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2009-10-09  8:14         ` Ian Kent
2009-10-09  8:33           ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09  8:56             ` Ian Kent
2009-10-09  9:59               ` Nick Piggin
2009-10-09 11:53                 ` Ian Kent
2009-10-09  8:07     ` Ian Kent

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