From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
jamie@shareable.org
Subject: Re: symlinks with permissions
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:36:29 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091026173629.GB16861@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091026165729.GF23564@us.ibm.com>
On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:57:29AM -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> Quoting Jan Kara (jack@suse.cz):
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun 25-10-09 07:29:53, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > ...yes, they do exist, in /proc/self/fd/* . Unfortunately, their
> > > permissions are not actually checked during open, resulting in
> > > (obscure) security hole: if you have fd open for reading, you can
> > > reopen it for write, even through unix permissions would not allow
> > > that.
> > >
> > > Now... I'd like to close the hole. One way would be to actually check
> > > symlink permissions on open -- because those symlinks already have
> > > correct permissions.
> > Hmm, I'm not sure I understand the problem. Symlink is just a file
> > containing a path. So if you try to open a symlink, you will actually open
> > a file to which the path points. So what security problem is here? Either
> > you can open the file symlink points to for writing or you cannot...
> > Anyway, if you want to play with this,
> > fs/proc/base.c:proc_pid_follow_link
> > is probably the function you are interested in.
>
> The problem he's trying to address is that users may try to protect
> a file by doing chmod 700 on the parent dir, but leave the file itself
> accessible. They don't realize that merely having a task with an open
> fd to that file gives other users another path to the file.
>
> Whether or not that's actually a problem is open to debate, but I think
> he's right that many users aren't aware of it.
If /proc/self/fd/23 is a symlink to /home/me/privatedir/secret, then an
open("proc/self/fd/23",...) still traverses the whole /home/.../secret
path, and needs appropriate permissions at each step, doesn't it?
Probably I'm just terminally confused....
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-26 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-25 6:29 symlinks with permissions Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 16:31 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 16:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-26 17:36 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2009-10-26 17:46 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 17:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-25 9:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-27 8:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-27 10:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-26 18:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-28 4:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28 11:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 21:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-29 2:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 11:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-29 16:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 18:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-30 20:37 ` Nick Bowler
2009-10-30 23:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-31 2:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 16:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-10-28 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-26 17:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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