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From: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
To: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: symlinks with permissions
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:27:34 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091027102734.GA32063@shareable.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091027081141.GF5019@elf.ucw.cz>

Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Mon 2009-10-26 14:22:16, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > On Sun, 2009-10-25 at 10:36 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > Well, it is unexpected and mild security hole.
> > > 
> > > Part of the problem is that even  if you have read-only
> > > filedescriptor, you can upgrade it to read-write, even if path is
> > > inaccessible to you.
> > > 
> > > So if someone passes you read-only filedescriptor, you can still write
> > > to it.
> > 
> > If someone passes you a file descriptor, can't you in any case play
> > games with, openat(fd,"",O_RDWR), in order to achieve the same thing? I
> > must admit I haven't tried it yet, but at a first glance I can't see
> > anything that prevents me from doing this...
> 
> According to my documentation, openat needs directory fd.

Correct.  There has been something about fstatat() and similar
allowing a non-directory when passed a NULL path, but openat() does
not.  (It's probably ok to extend openat() to allow a NULL path, if it
does the equivalent of re-opening /proc/self/fd/NN).

I think this whole issue is neatly solved by enforcing the file access
mode for open(/proc/PID/fd/NN) to be a safe subset of the original
file access mode.

It should use the original file access mode so that O_APPEND can
be enforced too.  Checking symlink permissions wouldn't do that.

Anything you can change with fcntl(F_SETFL) is fair game for changing.

The ptrace permission check is nice, but even with ptrace you can't
convert a read-only descriptor to a writable one (or write-only to
readable, or append-only to writable, etc.)

-- Jamie

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-27 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-25  6:29 symlinks with permissions Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 16:31 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 16:57   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-26 17:36     ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-26 17:46       ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 17:57         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-25  9:36           ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:22             ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-27  8:11               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-27 10:27                 ` Jamie Lokier [this message]
2009-10-26 18:35             ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-28  4:15             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28  8:16               ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28 11:25                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 21:03                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-29  2:20                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 11:03                       ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-29 16:23                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 18:35                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-30 20:37                             ` Nick Bowler
2009-10-30 23:03                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-31  2:30                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 16:34                 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-10-28 19:44                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 21:06                   ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:02         ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-26 17:57       ` Serge E. Hallyn

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