From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@fys.uio.no>,
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serue@us.ibm.com>,
kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
jamie@shareable.org
Subject: Re: symlinks with permissions
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:03:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091029110344.GA1517@ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1hbtj7xgj.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
Hi!
> >> It looks to me like it has been this way for better than a decade
> >> without problems so there is no point in changing it now.
> >
> > Unix compatibility?
>
> Thinking about this proc fundamentally gives you the ability to create
> (via open) a new file descriptor for a file you already have open.
Yes. Problem is that by using /proc, I can work-around open(READONLY)
restriction and work-around open(APPEND_ONLY) restriction.
> I do see a security issue in your example, but the security issue I
> see is how you have chosen to use the linux facilities, that have been
> there for ages. Facilities cloned from plan 9 and apparently
> available in slightly different forms on many unix variants existence.
> /dev/fd/N is not a linuxism.
>
> To close this whole would require some sort of stacking inode that
> when opened opened the real fs inode. With all kinds of convolutions
> and complications. Just to close the issue that some idiot might
> give someone a fd to a world writeable file that they don't want
> them to open.
Ok, so you agree issue is there. Good.
Now, fix for READONLY issue should be fairly simple: follow link in
/proc/*/fd/* should check the link permissions, and return
read-only/write-only descriptors as neccessary.
Basically, that follow link should behave as dup(), not as open().
> I certainly am not interested in debugging or maintaining the stacking
> inode code that would be necessary to close this theoretical corner
> case. There are much more real bugs that need attention.
But if we can get trivial 10-liner, that should be acceptable, right?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-29 11:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-25 6:29 symlinks with permissions Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 16:31 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 16:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2009-10-26 17:36 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-26 17:46 ` Jan Kara
2009-10-26 17:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-25 9:36 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:22 ` Trond Myklebust
2009-10-27 8:11 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-27 10:27 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-26 18:35 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-28 4:15 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 8:16 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-28 11:25 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-28 21:03 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-29 2:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-29 11:03 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-10-29 16:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-30 18:35 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-30 20:37 ` Nick Bowler
2009-10-30 23:03 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-10-31 2:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 16:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2009-10-28 19:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-28 21:06 ` Pavel Machek
2009-10-26 18:02 ` J. Bruce Fields
2009-10-26 17:57 ` Serge E. Hallyn
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