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From: Valerie Aurora <vaurora@redhat.com>
To: hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Jan Blunck <jblunck@suse.de>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@canonical.com>,
	Scott James Remnant <scott@canonical.com>,
	Sandu Popa Marius <sandupopamarius@gmail.com>,
	Jan Rekorajski <baggins@sith.mimuw.edu.pl>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Vladimir Dronnikov <dronnikov@gmail.com>,
	Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
Subject: Re: Fallthrus as full-length symlinks?
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:15:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091125021509.GF21724@shell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30797.1258523235@jrobl>

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 02:47:15PM +0900, hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp wrote:
> 
> Valerie Aurora:
> > Fallthrus were invented as a placeholders for readdir() on a
> > union-mounted directory - basically, to use the top-level file
> > system's readdir() cookie mechanism.  Fallthrus are persistent
> > directory entries and are implemented by the underlying file system -
> > such as ext2 or tmpfs - in whatever way it sees fit.  We've
> > implemented them for ext2 in two ways: as a regular directory entry
> > with a magic inode number, and as a regular directory entry with a
> > special file type.
> > 
> > Recently, David Woodhouse suggested implementing fallthrus as
> > full-length symlinks with a special flag.  The interesting thing about
> > this idea is that it could theoretically let us rename a file from the
> > low level file system to another place in the low-level file system
> > without copying the contents of the file up.  Basically, we can
> > arbitrarily swizzle the namespace of the low-level by maintaining a
> > set of symlinks above.
> > 
> > Is this useful?  Is it implementable?
> 
> I think the idea of fallthru entry is good, even if it is implemented as
> a special symlink.
> How do you think about the file paths in /proc/pid/maps and
> /proc/pid/fd?
> They refer the file paths, and some apps depend upon these path. I
> remember that the package manager in debian didn't work when the path is
> wrong. (But I don't know whether it is true still).
> 
> Will FS have to support such case?

My current thinking is that an overlay shouldn't be mounted over /proc
or other special file systems.  I think that a writable layer should
only be mounted over exactly one file system, no submounts allowed.

-VAL

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-25  2:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-13 17:46 Fallthrus as full-length symlinks? Valerie Aurora
2009-11-13 18:46 ` Erez Zadok
2009-11-13 19:55   ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-17 19:06     ` Valerie Aurora
2009-11-17 19:13   ` Valerie Aurora
2009-11-17 19:18     ` David Woodhouse
2009-11-17 19:43       ` Valerie Aurora
2009-11-17 20:20         ` Erez Zadok
2009-11-23 18:26           ` Valerie Aurora
2009-11-23 18:44             ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-25  2:12               ` Valerie Aurora
2009-11-24 11:18             ` Miklos Szeredi
2009-11-18  5:47 ` hooanon05
2009-11-25  2:15   ` Valerie Aurora [this message]
2009-11-25  2:36     ` hooanon05
2009-11-25  9:43       ` David Woodhouse
     [not found] <62b7cf460911151915k12c57c6dne9b49399bd8ce9d5@mail.gmail.com>
2009-11-17  0:57 ` AYAN TYAGI
2009-11-17  6:44   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-17  8:03     ` AYAN TYAGI
2009-11-17 19:47       ` Valerie Aurora

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