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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Trond Myklebust
	<Trond.Myklebust-HgOvQuBEEgTQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Steve Rago <sar-a+KepyhlMvJWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:52:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091224025228.GA12477@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1261595574.6775.2.camel@localhost>

Trond,

On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 03:12:54AM +0800, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-12-23 at 19:05 +0100, Jan Kara wrote: 
> > On Wed 23-12-09 15:21:47, Trond Myklebust wrote:
> > > @@ -474,6 +482,18 @@ writeback_single_inode(struct inode *inode, struct writeback_control *wbc)
> > >  	}
> > >  
> > >  	spin_lock(&inode_lock);
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Special state for cleaning NFS unstable pages
> > > +	 */
> > > +	if (inode->i_state & I_UNSTABLE_PAGES) {
> > > +		int err;
> > > +		inode->i_state &= ~I_UNSTABLE_PAGES;
> > > +		spin_unlock(&inode_lock);
> > > +		err = commit_unstable_pages(inode, wait);
> > > +		if (ret == 0)
> > > +			ret = err;
> > > +		spin_lock(&inode_lock);
> > > +	}
> >   I don't quite understand this chunk: We've called writeback_single_inode
> > because it had some dirty pages. Thus it has I_DIRTY_DATASYNC set and a few
> > lines above your chunk, we've called nfs_write_inode which sent commit to
> > the server. Now here you sometimes send the commit again? What's the
> > purpose?
> 
> We no longer set I_DIRTY_DATASYNC. We only set I_DIRTY_PAGES (and later
> I_UNSTABLE_PAGES).
> 
> The point is that we now do the commit only _after_ we've sent all the
> dirty pages, and waited for writeback to complete, whereas previously we
> did it in the wrong order.

Sorry I still don't get it. The timing used to be:

write 4MB   ==> WRITE block 0 (ie. first 512KB)
                WRITE block 1
                WRITE block 2
                WRITE block 3         ack from server for WRITE block 0 => mark 0 as unstable (inode marked need-commit)
                WRITE block 4         ack from server for WRITE block 1 => mark 1 as unstable
                WRITE block 5         ack from server for WRITE block 2 => mark 2 as unstable
                WRITE block 6         ack from server for WRITE block 3 => mark 3 as unstable
                WRITE block 7         ack from server for WRITE block 4 => mark 4 as unstable
                                      ack from server for WRITE block 5 => mark 5 as unstable
write_inode ==> COMMIT blocks 0-5
                                      ack from server for WRITE block 6 => mark 6 as unstable (inode marked need-commit)
                                      ack from server for WRITE block 7 => mark 7 as unstable 

                                      ack from server for COMMIT blocks 0-5 => mark 0-5 as clean

write_inode ==> COMMIT blocks 6-7

                                      ack from server for COMMIT blocks 6-7 => mark 6-7 as clean

Note that the first COMMIT is submitted before receiving all ACKs for
the previous writes, hence the second COMMIT is necessary. It seems
that your patch does not improve the timing at all.

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-24  2:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1261015420.1947.54.camel@serenity>
     [not found] ` <1261037877.27920.36.camel@laptop>
     [not found]   ` <20091219122033.GA11360@localhost>
     [not found]     ` <1261232747.1947.194.camel@serenity>
2009-12-22  1:59       ` [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 12:35         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]           ` <20091222123538.GB604-jyMamyUUXNJG4ohzP4jBZS1Fcj925eT/@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23  8:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]               ` <20091223084302.GA14912-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 13:32                 ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                   ` <20091223133244.GB3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-24  5:25                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24  1:26           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-22 16:41         ` Steve Rago
2009-12-24  1:21           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-24 14:49             ` Steve Rago
2009-12-25  7:37               ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-23 14:21         ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-23 18:05           ` Jan Kara
     [not found]             ` <20091223180551.GD3159-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2009-12-23 19:12               ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-24  2:52                 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-12-24 12:04                   ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-25  5:56                     ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30 16:22                       ` Trond Myklebust
2009-12-31  5:04                         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31 19:13                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06  3:03                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 16:56                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:26                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 18:37                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 18:52                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:07                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-01-06 19:21                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 19:53                                           ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:09                                             ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                               ` <20100106200928.GB22781-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 20:51                                                 ` [PATCH 0/6] " Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                   ` <20100106205110.22547.85345.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 1/6] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                       ` <20100106205110.22547.17971.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:38                                                         ` Jan Kara
     [not found]                                                           ` <20100106213843.GD22781-+0h/O2h83AeN3ZZ/Hiejyg@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-06 21:48                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  2:18                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]                                                           ` <1262839082.2185.15.camel@localhost>
2010-01-07  4:48                                                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  4:53                                                               ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20100107045330.5986.55090.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  4:53                                                                   ` [PATCH 3/5] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                                   ` [PATCH 2/5] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                                   ` [PATCH 4/5] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                                   ` [PATCH 5/5] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  4:53                                                                   ` [PATCH 1/5] VFS: Ensure that writeback_single_inode() commits unstable writes Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:56                                                             ` [PATCH 1/6] " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07 15:10                                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08  1:17                                                                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08  1:37                                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08  1:53                                                                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08  9:25                                                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 13:46                                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-08 13:54                                                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-08 14:15                                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 4/6] VM: Don't call bdi_stat(BDI_UNSTABLE) on non-nfs backing-devices Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  1:56                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 6/6] NFS: Run COMMIT as an asynchronous RPC call when wbc->for_background is set Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                       ` <20100106205110.22547.31434.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  2:32                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 5/6] VM: Use per-bdi unstable accounting to improve use of wbc->force_commit Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                       ` <20100106205110.22547.32584.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  2:34                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 2/6] VM/NFS: The VM must tell the filesystem when to free reclaimable pages Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  2:29                                                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  4:49                                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  5:03                                                           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-07  5:30                                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07 14:37                                                               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 20:51                                                     ` [PATCH 3/6] VM: Split out the accounting of unstable writes from BDI_RECLAIMABLE Trond Myklebust
     [not found]                                                       ` <20100106205110.22547.93554.stgit-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-01-07  1:48                                                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-06 21:44                                                     ` [PATCH 0/6] Re: [PATCH] improve the performance of large sequential write NFS workloads Jan Kara
2010-01-06 22:03                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-01-07  8:16                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra

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