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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Quentin Barnes <qbarnes+nfs@yahoo-inc.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	Steven Whitehouse <swhiteho@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] Disabling read-ahead makes I/O of large reads small
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 13:15:40 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091230051540.GA16308@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87aax18xms.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>

Andi,

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 02:04:43AM +0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> Quentin Barnes <qbarnes+nfs@yahoo-inc.com> writes:
> 
> cc fengguang who is Mr.Readahead. The full description+patch
> is in the archives.

Thank you for the CC.

> > In porting some application code to Linux, its performance over
> > NFSv3 on Linux is terrible.  I'm posting this note to LKML since
> > the problem was actually tracked back to the VFS layer.
> [...]
> > I have no idea if my patch is the appropriate fix.  I'm well out of
> > my area in this part of the kernel.  It solves this one problem, but
> > I have no idea how many boundary cases it doesn't cover or even if
> > it is the right way to go about addressing this issue.
> >
> > Is this behavior of shorting I/O of read(2) considered a bug?  And
> > is this approach for a fix approriate?
> 
> It sounds like a (performance) bug to me.

Yes it's a bug. It hit my mind in some early days.. I should be blamed
to lose track of it.

> >From a quick look your fix looks reasonable to me.

Yes, it's reasonable to directly call force_page_cache_readahead() in
this case.

However the ra_pages=0 trick in fadvise also asks for fix. We'd better
let it set a readahead flag, because ra_pages=0 is used in many other
places to really disable the (heuristic|force) readahead. See the
second patch's description for more details.

Thanks,
Fengguang

       reply	other threads:[~2009-12-30  5:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091225000717.GA26949@yahoo-inc.com>
     [not found] ` <87aax18xms.fsf@basil.nowhere.org>
2009-12-30  5:15   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2009-12-30  5:17     ` [RFC][PATCH 1/2] readahead: replace ra->mmap_miss with ra->flags Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30  5:24     ` [RFC][PATCH 2/2] readahead: avoid page-by-page reads on POSIX_FADV_RANDOM Wu Fengguang
2009-12-30 18:02       ` Andi Kleen
2009-12-31  1:39         ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  2:53           ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  3:03             ` Wu Fengguang
2009-12-31  4:31         ` [RFC][PATCH v2] readahead: introduce O_RANDOM_READ for POSIX_FADV_RANDOM Wu Fengguang
2010-01-08 13:08           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-09 13:59             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-09 14:01               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04  4:50         ` [RFC][PATCH v3] readahead: introduce O_RANDOM " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04  5:17           ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-04  7:33             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-01-04 12:56               ` [RFC][PATCH v4] " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  2:03                 ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-05  2:26                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  2:28                     ` Stephen Rothwell
2010-01-05  2:45                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  5:21                         ` Eric Paris
2010-01-05  3:18                       ` [RFC][PATCH v5] " Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  3:27                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-04 16:50               ` [RFC][PATCH v3] " Quentin Barnes
2010-01-04 18:57                 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-01-04  5:20           ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-04 12:16             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  1:46               ` Minchan Kim
2010-01-05  2:16                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-01-05  3:40                   ` Minchan Kim

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