From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH][RFC] %pd - for printing dentry name
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 02:52:21 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100203105221.GA6263@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100202070908.GF12882@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
On Tue, Feb 02, 2010 at 07:09:08AM +0000, Al Viro wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:53:41PM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> > Here is an approximation that might inspire someone to come up with a
> > real solution.
> >
> > One approach would be to store the name length with the name, so that
> > struct qstr loses the "len" field, and so that its "name" field points
> > to a struct that has a "len" field followed by an array of const
> > unsigned char. That way, the name and length are closely associated.
> > When you pick up a struct qstr's "name" pointer, you are guaranteed to
> > get a length that matches the name.
> >
> > Unfortunately:
> >
> > o In theory, this leaves the length of the dentry unchanged, but
> > alignment is a problem on 64-bit systems. Also, the long names
> > gain an extra four bytes.
>
> That one is not a big deal.
K.
> > o If you get a pointer to the d_iname small-name field, rename
> > might still change the name out from under you. This could in
> > theory be fixed by refusing to re-use the d_iname field until
> > an RCU grace period had elapsed (using an external structure
> > instead). In practice, not sure if this is really a reasonable
> > approach.
>
> That, OTOH, is - most of dentries use inline name and external one is
> really a rarely used fallback. Making it a common case isn't nice.
It is possible to move it back inline after a grace period, so that the
external name would be in use for only a few milliseconds after the
rename, but that of course adds more complexity.
> There's another practical problem - a lot of code uses qstr fields and
> patch will be painful; I couldn't care less about the out-of-tree code,
> but it's a flagday change and in-tree patch size is not something to
> sneeze at - I've been crawling through all that code for the last couple
> of days and there's a lot of it.
Indeed!!!
> Trying to play with seqlock-based solutions sounds more promising; I've
> missed it completely and I'm half-asleep right now, so I'll try to take
> a look at that after I get some sleep.
Certainly sounds worth a try.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-04 10:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-01 22:25 [PATCH][RFC] %pd - for printing dentry name Al Viro
2010-02-01 22:34 ` Al Viro
2010-02-01 22:37 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-01 23:18 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 1:06 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 5:55 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-02 17:01 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 18:10 ` Olivier Galibert
2010-02-02 19:19 ` Eric W. Biederman
2010-02-03 3:04 ` Al Viro
2010-02-04 4:53 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 4:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 5:00 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 6:36 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-04 6:02 ` Al Viro
2010-02-04 7:40 ` Nick Piggin
2010-02-02 6:53 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-02 7:09 ` Al Viro
2010-02-02 13:32 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-02 15:56 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-02 16:13 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-02 16:43 ` Al Viro
2010-02-03 10:52 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2010-02-03 2:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-04 15:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-04 16:02 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-04 17:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-02-04 17:36 ` Al Viro
2010-02-07 16:34 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-02-01 22:45 ` Joe Perches
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