From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vfs generic subtree support
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 14:25:40 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100216192540.GA26292@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sk91i4bk.fsf@openvz.org>
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 06:32:47PM +0300, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx> writes:
>
> > On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 06:00:32PM +0300, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> >> Use-cases:
> >> *Assing maximum disc space consumption for some hierarchy *
> >>
> >> 1) Create chroot environment
> >> # tar xf chroot_env.tar /var/xxx/chroot
> >> 2) Assign some metagroup id to the chroot content (via not yet
> >> existent ./metagroup cmd-tool)
> >> # find /var/xxx/chroot | xargs ./metagroup --set 1000
> >>
> >> 3) Setup quota limits
> >> # quota-set --type metagroup --blk_soft=1024M blk_hard=1024M /var
> >>
> >> 4) Export this tree (it may be more complex)
> >> # mount /var/xxx/chroot /mnt/chroot -obound
> >>
> >> 5)Now we may use this /mnt/chroot as:
> >> 5A) A regular chroot envirement, user is unable to exceed metagroup
> >> quota, regardless to real available space on /var/
> >> 5B) As a container's (namespace) root.
> >> 5C) export this /mnt/chroot to nfs server and nfs client can not
> >> overcome given metagroup quota limit.
> >
> > This all seems quota-related ... do you envisage uses that aren't
> > quota-related?
> Yes. Since link/rename behavior is no longer depends on metagroup
> I'm consider it as quota related only.
It'd allow nfsd to implement export subtrees safely.
(The current problem: there's not an easy way to determine whether an
inode (looked up from a filehandle) is reachable from a given directory.
So if you export a directory that isn't the root of a filesystem, you
have an unfortunate choice:
- turn on the "subtree_check" export option: add information
sufficient to lookup the parent directory to each filehandle.
But then filehandles change (and clients get ESTALE) on
cross-directory rename.
- Accept the possibility that someone could fake up a filehandle
that grants access to files outside the exported subtree. OK
if you're exporting the subtree just for convenience, but bad
if you're exporting /usr/local and think /etc/some-secret is
safe without /usr/local being on a separate partition.
With subtrees presumably we could stick the subtree-id in the
filehandle, and the subtree would provide a security boundary that's
easy to check on filehandle lookup (by comparing the subtree-id in the
filehandle to the one in the inode you find). And subtrees would be
simpler to manage than separate partitions.)
--b.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-02-16 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-02-16 10:52 [RFC] vfs generic subtree support Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-16 12:20 ` Al Viro
2010-02-16 12:37 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-16 13:38 ` Al Viro
2010-02-16 14:01 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-16 14:21 ` Al Viro
2010-02-16 15:00 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-16 15:12 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-02-16 15:32 ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-16 19:25 ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-02-16 19:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-02-16 19:39 ` J. Bruce Fields
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