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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dmitry Monakhov <dmonakhov@openvz.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Camille Moncelier <pix@devlife.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ext4 development <linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org>,
	hch@lst.de, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [ext3] Changes to block device after an ext3 mount point has been remounted readonly
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:56:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100224165646.GL3687@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877hq2tyg8.fsf@openvz.org>

On Wed 24-02-10 19:01:27, Dmitry Monakhov wrote:
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> writes:
> 
> >> The fact is that I've been able to reproduce the problem on LVM block
> >> devices, and sd* block devices so it's definitely not a loop device
> >> specific problem.
> >> 
> >> By the way, I tried several other things other than "echo s
> >> >/proc/sysrq_trigger" I tried multiple sync followed with a one minute
> >> "sleep",
> >> 
> >> "echo 3 >/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" seems to lower the chances of "hash
> >> changes" but doesn't stops them.
> >   Strange. When I use sync(1) in your script and use /dev/sda5 instead of a
> > /dev/loop0, I cannot reproduce the problem (was running the script for
> > something like an hour).
> Theoretically some pages may exist after rw=>ro remount
> because of generic race between write/sync, And they will be written
> in by writepage if page already has buffers. This not happen in ext4
> because. Each time it try to perform writepages it try to start_journal
> and this result in EROFS.
> The race bug will be closed some day but new one may appear again.
  OK, I see that in theory a process can open file for writing after
fs_may_remount_ro() before MS_RDONLY flag gets set. That could be really
nasty. But by no means we should solve this VFS problem by spilling error
messages from the filesystem. Especially because block_write_full_page can
fail from a number of legal reasons (ENOSPC, EDQUOT, EIO) and we don't want
to pollute logs with such stuff.
  BTW: This isn't the race Camille could see because he did all the writes,
then sync and then remount-ro...

  Al, Christoph, do I miss something or there is really nothing which
prevents a process from opening a file after the fs_may_remount_ro() check
in do_remount_sb()?

								Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-24 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-18 16:45 [ext3] Changes to block device after an ext3 mount point has been remounted readonly PiX
2010-02-18 16:50 ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-18 21:41 ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-19  7:38   ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-22 22:32     ` Jan Kara
2010-02-22 23:05       ` Jan Kara
2010-02-22 23:09         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-02-23  8:42           ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-23 13:55             ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 16:01               ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-24 16:26                 ` Camille Moncelier
2010-02-24 16:59                   ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 16:56                 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2010-03-02  9:34                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-03-02 10:01                     ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-03-02 13:26                       ` Jan Kara
2010-03-02 23:10                     ` Joel Becker
2010-02-24 16:57                 ` Eric Sandeen
2010-02-24 17:05                   ` Jan Kara
2010-02-24 17:26                     ` Dmitry Monakhov
2010-02-24 21:36                       ` Jan Kara
2010-03-02 10:29         ` Nick Piggin

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