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From: Brad Boyer <flar@allandria.com>
To: James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR)
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:28:59 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100313072859.GA2779@cynthia.pants.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.00.1003091834450.12164@tundra.namei.org>

On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 07:13:45PM +1100, James Morris wrote:
> The core issue is that we don't want system-level xattrs being stored on 
> the server.

I can understand that, but it does seem like only system xattrs should
be treated that way to me.

> As you suggest, perhaps we always leave 'user' xattrs untranslated on the 
> server, with an expectation that they're always opaque to the server and 
> managed entirely by user applications.

This seems reasonable.

> I don't think we can meaningfully do this for 'trusted' xattrs, as we 
> don't know how to extend CAP_SYS_ADMIN over NFS.  So, this, and all other 
> non-user namespaces (e.g. 'system', 'security') are mapped on the server 
> to the 'nfsd' namespace, on the basis that they would otherwise require 
> interpretation by the server, which we want to avoid.  (Note that there's 
> an exception here for POSIX ACLs, which already use a well-defined 
> protocol over NFS).
> 
> Here's a summary of the mappings:
> 
> Client                    Server
> 
> user.a                    user.a
> trusted.a                 nfsd.trusted.a
> system.a                  nfsd.system.a
> security.a                nfsd.security.a
> 
> Special cases:
> 
>   if ACL protocol enabled on server:
> 
> system.posix_acl_access   system.posix_acl_access
> system.posix_acl_default  system.posix_acl_default
>   
>   if ACL protocol not enabled on server:
> 
> system.posix_acl_access   [error]
> system.posix_acl_default  [error]
> 
> This also ensures that nothing about the existing NFS ACL support changes.
> 
> 'user' xattrs simply work as expected, whether accessed locally or 
> remotely.  
> 
> How does this sound?

This mapping sounds great to me. It would be interesting to hear some
opinions from other people on the lists.

	Brad Boyer
	flar@allandria.com


      reply	other threads:[~2010-03-13  7:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <alpine.LRH.2.00.1002261457420.25193@tundra.namei.org>
2010-03-08 10:42 ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) James Morris
2010-03-08 10:43   ` [PATCH 1/6] NFSv3: convert client to generic xattr API James Morris
2010-03-08 10:44   ` [PATCH 3/6] NFSv3: add client implementation of XATTR protocol James Morris
2010-03-08 10:45   ` [PATCH 4/6] NFSv3: add server " James Morris
2010-03-08 10:46   ` [PATCH 5/6] xattr: add new top level nfsd namespace and implement ext3 support James Morris
     [not found]   ` <alpine.LRH.2.00.1003082122340.6314-CK9fWmtY32x9JUWOpEiw7w@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-08 10:43     ` [PATCH 2/6] NFSv3: add xattr API config option for client James Morris
2010-03-08 10:47     ` [PATCH 6/6] NFSv3: Add server namespace support for XATTR protocol implementation James Morris
2010-03-09  3:59   ` [PATCH 0/6][v4][RFC] NFSv3: implement extended attribute protocol (XATTR) Brad Boyer
2010-03-09  5:49     ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]       ` <4B95E167.40306-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-09  7:04         ` Brad Boyer
2010-03-09 19:35           ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]             ` <20100309193545.GE11042-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-10  3:46               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15  3:19                 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-03-15  4:42                   ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                     ` <4B9DBAB0.5060500-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 14:28                       ` Jamie Lokier
     [not found]                         ` <20100315142803.GC15133-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2010-03-15 23:28                           ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-15 23:49                             ` Trond Myklebust
2010-03-16  2:31                               ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-17 20:13         ` Eric Paris
2010-03-17 21:23           ` Casey Schaufler
2010-03-09  8:13     ` James Morris
2010-03-13  7:28       ` Brad Boyer [this message]

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