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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	hch@infradead.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] new ->perform_write fop
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 17:33:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100514073324.GD4706@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100514072055.GK13617@dastard>

On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 05:20:55PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 03:50:54PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > Now is there really a good reason to go this way and add more to the
> > write_begin/write_end paths?  Rather than having filesystems just
> > implement their own write file_operations in order to do multi-block
> > operations?
> 
> Well, if we've got xfs, btrfs, gfs2, ext4, and others all wanting to
> do multipage writes, shouldn't we be trying doing in a generic way?

If it makes sense, definitely.


> Fuse doesn't have to deal with allocation of blocks in
> fuse_perform_write()

I just can't see how the generic code can really help out with that
problem of error handling in various parts of the operation allocation.


> > From what I can see, the generic code is not going to be able to be
> > much help with error handling etc. so I would prefer to keep it as
> > simple as possible. I think it is still adequate for most cases.
> > 
> > Take a look at how fuse does multi-page write operations. It is about
> > the simplest case you can get, but it still requires all the generic
> > checks etc.
> 
> fuse_perform_write() doesn't do allocation, and so can easily abort
> at the first error and just complete the writes that did succeed.
> Hence it don't think it's a model that a filesystem that has to
> handle space allocation can use.

No but it does all the _generic_ vfs checks required, which sounded
like what the btrfs folk were concerned about duplicating. My point
was just that there isn't very much duplication really.


> > and it is quite neat -- I don't see a big issue with
> > duplicating generic code?
> 
> When a large number of filesystems end up duplicating the same code,
> then we should be looking at how to implement that functionality
> generically, right?

Yes if it captures a good chunk of common code without unduely
complicating things. I'll be interested to see if that can be
made the case.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-14  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 21:24 [RFC] new ->perform_write fop Josef Bacik
2010-05-13  1:39 ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-13 15:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-14  1:00   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  3:30     ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-14  5:50       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-14  7:20         ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  7:33           ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-05-14  6:41       ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  7:22         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-14  8:38           ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14 13:33             ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18  6:36             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18  8:05               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-18 10:43                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18 12:27                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-18 15:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 23:50                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-20  6:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-20 20:12                         ` Jan Kara
2010-05-20 23:05                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21  9:05                             ` Steven Whitehouse
2010-05-21 13:50                             ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-21 14:23                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21 15:19                                 ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-24  3:29                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-22  0:31                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21 18:58                             ` Jan Kara
2010-05-22  0:27                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  9:20                                 ` Jan Kara
2010-05-24  9:33                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-05 15:05                                   ` tytso
2010-06-06  7:59                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21 15:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-22  2:31             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-22  8:37               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  3:09                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24  5:53                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  6:55                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 10:21                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-01  6:27                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 18:40                       ` Joel Becker
2010-05-17 23:35         ` Jan Kara
2010-05-18  1:21           ` Dave Chinner

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