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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Josef Bacik <josef@redhat.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, chris.mason@oracle.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] new ->perform_write fop
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 12:31:02 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100522023102.GP2516@laptop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100521151518.GA12752@infradead.org>

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:15:18AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> Nick, what exactly is the problem with the reserve + allocate design?
> 
> In a delalloc filesystem (which is all those that will care about high
> performance large writes) the write path fundamentally consists of those
> two operations.  Getting rid of the get_blocks mess and replacing it
> with a dedicated operations vector will simplify things a lot.

Nothing wrong with it, I think it's a fine idea (although you may still
need a per-bh call to connect the fs metadata to each page).

I just much prefer to have operations after the copy not able to fail,
otherwise you get into all those pagecache corner cases.

BTW. when you say reserve + allocate, this is in the page-dirty path,
right? I thought delalloc filesystems tend to do the actual allocation
in the page-cleaning path? Or am I confused?

 
> Punching holes is a rather problematic operation, and as mentioned not
> actually implemented for most filesystems - just decrementing counters
> on errors increases the chances that our error handling will actually
> work massively.

It's just harder for the pagecache. Invalidating and throwing out old
pagecache and splicing in new pages seems a bit of a hack.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-22  2:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-12 21:24 [RFC] new ->perform_write fop Josef Bacik
2010-05-13  1:39 ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-13 15:36   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-14  1:00   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  3:30     ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-14  5:50       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-14  7:20         ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  7:33           ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-14  6:41       ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14  7:22         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-14  8:38           ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-14 13:33             ` Chris Mason
2010-05-18  6:36             ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18  8:05               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-18 10:43                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-18 12:27                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-18 15:09                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-19 23:50                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-20  6:48                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-20 20:12                         ` Jan Kara
2010-05-20 23:05                           ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21  9:05                             ` Steven Whitehouse
2010-05-21 13:50                             ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-21 14:23                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21 15:19                                 ` Josef Bacik
2010-05-24  3:29                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-22  0:31                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-21 18:58                             ` Jan Kara
2010-05-22  0:27                               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  9:20                                 ` Jan Kara
2010-05-24  9:33                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-05 15:05                                   ` tytso
2010-06-06  7:59                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-21 15:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-05-22  2:31             ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-05-22  8:37               ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  3:09                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24  5:53                   ` Dave Chinner
2010-05-24  6:55                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 10:21                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-01  6:27                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-24 18:40                       ` Joel Becker
2010-05-17 23:35         ` Jan Kara
2010-05-18  1:21           ` Dave Chinner

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