From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com>,
Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:32:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100604153210.GE3414@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604020243.GE19651@dastard>
On Fri 04-06-10 12:02:43, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:46:34AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:41:21PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > Closing the while it is dirty, while it is being written back window
> > > still leaves a pretty big window. Also, how do you handle mmap writes?
> > > Write protect and checksum the destination page after every store? Or
> > > leave some window between when the pagecache is dirtied and when it is
> > > written back? So I don't know whether it's worth putting a lot of effort
> > > into this case.
> >
> > So, changing gears to how do we protect filesystem page cache pages
> > instead of the generic idea of dif/dix, btrfs crcs just before writing,
> > which does leave a pretty big window for the page to get corrupted.
> > The storage layer shouldn't care or know about that though, we hand it a
> > crc and it makes sure data matching that crc goes to the media.
>
> I think the only way to get accurate CRCs is to stop modifications
> from occurring while the page is under writeback. i.e. when a page
> transitions from dirty to writeback we need to unmap any writable
> mappings on the page, and then any new modifications (either by the
> write() path or through ->fault) need to block waiting for
> page writeback to complete before they can proceed...
Actually, we already write-protect the page in clear_page_dirty_for_io
so the first part already happens. Any filesystem can do
wait_on_page_writeback() in its ->page_mkwrite function so even the second
part shouldn't be hard. I'm just a bit worried about the performance
implications / hidden deadlocks...
Also we'd have to wait_on_page_writeback() in ->write_begin function to
protect against ordinary writes but that's the easy part...
Honza
--
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-04 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-31 11:28 Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 11:34 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 14:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 14:46 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 13:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:37 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-02 23:20 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-04 1:34 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04 2:32 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-07 16:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-07 17:22 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-07 17:40 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-08 7:15 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-08 8:47 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08 8:52 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 14:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 15:01 ` James Bottomley
2010-05-31 15:30 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-05-31 15:49 ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 16:25 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:22 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 10:30 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 10:49 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:03 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50 ` Christof Schmitt
[not found] ` <20100601135059.GA21008@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com>
2010-06-01 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-08 7:18 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 14:26 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:27 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:33 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:40 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:49 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-06-01 16:47 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:54 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 18:09 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 18:46 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20100601184649.GE9453@laptop>
2010-06-01 19:35 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-02 3:20 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 13:17 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:41 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 15:46 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-03 16:27 ` Nick Piggin
[not found] ` <20100603162718.GR6822@laptop>
2010-06-04 1:46 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04 3:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-04 2:02 ` Dave Chinner
[not found] ` <20100604020243.GE19651@dastard>
2010-06-04 15:32 ` Jan Kara [this message]
2010-06-04 1:30 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 21:07 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 22:49 ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 14:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 14:32 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 14:54 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-03 11:20 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:07 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 12:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:46 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-09 15:58 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 13:06 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 13:23 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 17:59 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-23 19:16 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 20:51 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 12:22 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-26 17:00 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 19:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-24 1:03 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-01 2:40 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-06-03 16:09 ` [LFS/VM TOPIC] Stable pages while IO (was Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write) Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 16:30 ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-03 17:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-04 16:23 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-04 16:30 ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-04 17:11 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-06 9:35 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-06 23:37 ` Jan Kara
2010-06-07 8:30 ` Boaz Harrosh
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