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From: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@wil.cx>,
	Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com>,
	Boaz Harrosh <bharrosh@panasas.com>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2010 17:32:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100604153210.GE3414@quack.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100604020243.GE19651@dastard>

On Fri 04-06-10 12:02:43, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 11:46:34AM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 11:41:21PM +1000, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > Closing the while it is dirty, while it is being written back window
> > > still leaves a pretty big window. Also, how do you handle mmap writes?
> > > Write protect and checksum the destination page after every store? Or
> > > leave some window between when the pagecache is dirtied and when it is
> > > written back? So I don't know whether it's worth putting a lot of effort
> > > into this case.
> > 
> > So, changing gears to how do we protect filesystem page cache pages
> > instead of the generic idea of dif/dix, btrfs crcs just before writing,
> > which does leave a pretty big window for the page to get corrupted.
> > The storage layer shouldn't care or know about that though, we hand it a
> > crc and it makes sure data matching that crc goes to the media.
> 
> I think the only way to get accurate CRCs is to stop modifications
> from occurring while the page is under writeback. i.e. when a page
> transitions from dirty to writeback we need to unmap any writable
> mappings on the page, and then any new modifications (either by the
> write() path or through ->fault) need to block waiting for
> page writeback to complete before they can proceed...
  Actually, we already write-protect the page in clear_page_dirty_for_io
so the first part already happens. Any filesystem can do
wait_on_page_writeback() in its ->page_mkwrite function so even the second
part shouldn't be hard. I'm just a bit worried about the performance
implications / hidden deadlocks...
  Also we'd have to wait_on_page_writeback() in ->write_begin function to
protect against ordinary writes  but that's the easy part...

									Honza
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-04 15:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-31 11:28 Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 11:34 ` Christof Schmitt
2010-05-31 14:20 ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 14:46   ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 13:16     ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:37       ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-02 23:20         ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-04  1:34           ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04  2:32             ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-07 16:20               ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-07 17:22                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-07 17:40                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-08  7:15                     ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-08  8:47                       ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-08  8:52                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 14:49   ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:17     ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-05-31 15:01   ` James Bottomley
2010-05-31 15:30     ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-05-31 15:49       ` Nick Piggin
2010-05-31 16:25         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:22         ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 10:30       ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 10:49         ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-01 13:03         ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50           ` Christof Schmitt
     [not found]           ` <20100601135059.GA21008@schmichrtp.mainz.de.ibm.com>
2010-06-01 13:58             ` Chris Mason
2010-06-08  7:18               ` Christof Schmitt
2010-06-01 14:26             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 13:27         ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:33           ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:40             ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 13:49               ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:29                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-06-01 16:47                   ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 16:54                     ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 18:09                       ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 18:46                         ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                         ` <20100601184649.GE9453@laptop>
2010-06-01 19:35                           ` Chris Mason
2010-06-02  3:20                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-02 13:17                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-02 13:41                                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-03 15:46                                   ` Chris Mason
2010-06-03 16:27                                     ` Nick Piggin
     [not found]                                     ` <20100603162718.GR6822@laptop>
2010-06-04  1:46                                       ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-04  3:09                                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-04  2:02                                     ` Dave Chinner
     [not found]                                     ` <20100604020243.GE19651@dastard>
2010-06-04 15:32                                       ` Jan Kara [this message]
2010-06-04  1:30                                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 21:07                         ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 22:49                           ` Chris Mason
2010-06-01 13:50               ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-01 14:28                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-01 14:32                 ` James Bottomley
2010-06-01 14:54                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2010-06-03 11:20           ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:07             ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 12:41               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 12:46                 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-09 15:58                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-03 13:06                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 13:23                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 17:59             ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-23 19:16               ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-23 20:51                 ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 12:22                   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-26 17:00                     ` Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-07-26 19:26                       ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-07-24  1:03                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-06-01  2:40     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-06-03 16:09 ` [LFS/VM TOPIC] Stable pages while IO (was Wrong DIF guard tag on ext2 write) Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-03 16:30   ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-03 17:41   ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-06-04 16:23   ` Jan Kara
2010-06-04 16:30     ` [Lsf10-pc] " J. Bruce Fields
2010-06-04 17:11       ` Jan Kara
2010-06-06  9:35     ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-06-06 23:37       ` Jan Kara
2010-06-07  8:30         ` Boaz Harrosh

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