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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	czoccolo@gmail.com
Subject: Re: trying to understand READ_META, READ_SYNC, WRITE_SYNC & co
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:05:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100626100526.GA27159@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100626033509.GA2435@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 25, 2010 at 11:35:10PM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> This logic was introduced by corrado to ensure WRITE_SYNC does not
> lose fair share. Now we are back to the same question, what is the workload
> which does that.
> 
> 8e55063 cfq-iosched: fix corner cases in idling logic
> 
> Before this patch, we will simply not do any idling on WRITE_SYNC. That
> means no idling on O_SYNC/fsync paths but still idle on direct IO
> WRITE_SYNC. Which is a bit of discrepancy.

Corrado, can you explain what workloads you doing that commit for?
The commit message doesn't really given any useful information.


> - Stop idling on all the WRITE_SYNC IO. There is no reasonable way to 
>   tell whether there will be more IO or not from applicatoin. This will
>   impact direct writes, O_SYNC writes and fsync().
> 
>   If direct IO application is submitting writes with a delay in between
>   it can be starved out in presnce of competing workloads.

So what application does this?

> - Do idling by default on WRITE_SYNC path. Implement Jeff's queue yielding
>   patches. That way O_SYNC/fsyn path will call blk_yield() and stop idling.
>   Direct IO write path will stil continue to idle (I think if file has already
>   been laid out?). 

I don't think this makes much sense.  And O_SYNC write / fsync are
defined to not return before the I/O makes it to disk, and for any
sane filesystem end with a WRITE_BARRIER request because of that.
So we end these with an explicit unplug anyway, no need for idling
logic.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-26 10:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-21  9:48 trying to understand READ_META, READ_SYNC, WRITE_SYNC & co Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 10:04 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 11:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 18:56     ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:14       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 19:16         ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 21:36         ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-23 10:01           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-24  1:44             ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-25 11:03               ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-26  3:35                 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-26 10:05                   ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2010-06-26 11:20                     ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-26 11:56                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-27 15:44                   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-29  9:06                     ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-06-29 12:30                       ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-30 15:30                         ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-06-26  9:25                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-26  9:27                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-26 10:10                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-26 10:16                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 18:52   ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-21 18:58     ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:08       ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-23  9:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 20:25   ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-23 10:02     ` Christoph Hellwig

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