From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Corrado Zoccolo <czoccolo@gmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: trying to understand READ_META, READ_SYNC, WRITE_SYNC & co
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 08:30:32 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100629123032.GC7094@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTiktd7GxqDkezq7LJ3vN8D0wFgzKePdQBAY3bz17@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 11:06:19AM +0200, Corrado Zoccolo wrote:
[..]
> > I'm now testing OCFS2, and I'm seeing performance that is not great
> > (even with the blk_yield patches applied). What happens is that we
> > successfully yield the queue to the journal thread, but then idle on the
> > journal thread (even though RQ_NOIDLE was set).
> >
> > So, can we just get rid of idling when RQ_NOIDLE is set?
> Hi Jeff,
> I think I spotted a problem with the initial implementation of the
> tree-wide idle when RQ_NOIDLE is set: I assumed that a queue would
> either send possibly-idling requests or no-idle requests, but it seems
> that RQ_NOIDLE is being used to mark the end of a stream of
> possibly-idling requests (in my initial implementation, this will then
> cause an unintended idle). The attached patch should fix it, and I
> think the logic is simpler than Vivek's. Can you give it a spin?
> Otherwise, I think that reverting the "noidle_tree_requires_idle"
> behaviour completely may be better than adding complexity, since it is
> really trying to solve corner cases (that maybe happen only on
> synthetic workloads), but affecting negatively more common cases.
>
Hi Corrado,
I think you forgot to attach the patch? Can't find it.
> About what it is trying to solve, since I think it was not clear:
> - we have a workload of 2 queues, both issuing requests that are being
> put in the no-idle tree (e.g. they are random) + 1 queue issuing
> idling requests (e.g. sequential).
> - if one of the 2 "random" queues marks its requests as RQ_NOIDLE,
> then the timeslice for the no-idle tree is not preserved, causing
> unfairness, as soon as an RQ_NOIDLE request is serviced and the tree
> is empty.
I think Jeff's primary regressions were coming from the fact that we
will continue to idle on SYNC_WORKLOAD even if RQ_NOIDLE() was set.
Regarding giving up idling on sync-noidle workload, I think it still
makes some sense to keep track if some other random queue is doing IO on
that tree or not and if yes, then continue to idle. That's a different
thing that current logic if more coarse and could be fine grained a bit.
Because I don't have a practical workload example at this point of time, I
also don't mind reverting your old patch and restoring the policy of not
idling if RQ_NOIDLE() was set.
But it still does not answer the question that why O_DIRECT and O_SYNC
paths be different when it comes to RQ_NOIDLE.
Thanks
Vivek
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-29 12:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-21 9:48 trying to understand READ_META, READ_SYNC, WRITE_SYNC & co Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 10:04 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 11:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 18:56 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 19:16 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 21:36 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-23 10:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-24 1:44 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-25 11:03 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-26 3:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-26 10:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-26 11:20 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-26 11:56 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-27 15:44 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-29 9:06 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-06-29 12:30 ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2010-06-30 15:30 ` Corrado Zoccolo
2010-06-26 9:25 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-26 9:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-26 10:10 ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-26 10:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 18:52 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-21 18:58 ` Jens Axboe
2010-06-21 19:08 ` Jeff Moyer
2010-06-23 9:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-06-21 20:25 ` Vivek Goyal
2010-06-23 10:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
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