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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	david@fromorbit.com, aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	hch@infradead.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, adilger@sun.com,
	corbet@lwn.net, serue@us.ibm.com, hooanon05@yahoo.co.jp,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, sfrench@us.ibm.com,
	philippe.deniel@CEA.FR, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V14 0/11] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 18:25:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100707222551.GA9878@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100708082143.3701bfc7@notabene.brown>

On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 08:21:43AM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010 10:45:11 -0400
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 03:35:50PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > It's unique at a single point in time.  But if you have a reference
> > > (e.g. open file descriptor) on the mount then that's not a problem.
> > > 
> > >    fd = open(path, ...);
> > >    fstat(fd, &st);
> > >    search st.st_dev in mountinfo
> > >    close(fd)
> > > 
> > > is effectively the same as an getuuid(path) syscall (lazy unmounted
> > > filesystems will not be found in mountinfo, but the reference is still
> > > there so st_dev will not be reused for other filesystems).
> > 
> > OK, cool.
> > 
> > That still leaves the problem that there isn't always an underlying
> > block device, and/or when there is it doesn't always uniquely specify
> > the filesystem.
> 
> It doesn't matter if there is an underlying block device, or if it is shared
> among subvolmes.
> st_dev is *the* primary key for filesystems.  Every "struct super_block" has a
> unquie s_dev and that is returned in st_dev.
> 
> For "traditional" filesystem, this is the major/minor number of the block
> device.
> For NFS and btrfs and other filesystems which don't have exclusive use of a
> block device, 'set_anon_super' is used to get a unique s_dev based on a major
> number of '0'.

Whoops, OK, thanks for the explanation.

--b.

> So you can *always* use st_dev as an identifier for the filesystem which is
> stable and unique as long as you hold an active reference to the filesystem
> (open file descriptor, cwd in fs, etc).
> 
> If you poll(2) /proc/mounts to get notifications of changes to the mount
> table, then it should be quite easy to cache st-dev -> uuid mappings in a
> race-free way.
> 
> There might be value in getting name_to_handle to return the st_dev of the
> target file to ensure that you haven't unexepected crossed into a different
> filesystem.  I would prefer that to returning a uuid:  st_dev is guaranteed
> to be unique, a uuid is only supposed to be unique (i.e. that is not
> enforced).
> 
> NeilBrown

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-07 22:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-15 17:12 [PATCH -V14 0/11] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 01/11] exportfs: Return the minimum required handle size Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 02/11] vfs: Add name to file handle conversion support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 03/11] vfs: Add open by file handle support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-07-07 15:17   ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 16:16     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 04/11] vfs: Allow handle based open on symlinks Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-07-07 15:23   ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 16:24     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07 16:57       ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 17:53         ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07 18:20           ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 16:48   ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-08 10:42     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 05/11] vfs: Support null pathname in readlink Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-07-07 15:27   ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 16:32     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07 17:03       ` Nick Piggin
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 06/11] ext4: Copy fs UUID to superblock Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 07/11] x86: Add new syscalls for x86_32 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 08/11] x86: Add new syscalls for x86_64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:12 ` [PATCH -V14 09/11] ext3: Copy fs UUID to superblock Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:13 ` [PATCH -V14 10/11] vfs: Support null pathname in faccessat Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-06-15 17:13 ` [PATCH -V14 11/11] vfs: Support null pathname in linkat Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-07-01 16:28 ` [PATCH -V14 0/11] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-01 20:41   ` Neil Brown
2010-07-01 21:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-06 16:10       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-06 17:09         ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-06 23:23           ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-06 23:36             ` Neil Brown
2010-07-07  2:11               ` Dave Chinner
2010-07-07  2:57                 ` Neil Brown
2010-07-07 12:44                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-07-07 12:57                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 13:10                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-07-07 13:17                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 13:35                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-07-07 14:45                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 16:33                             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07 16:39                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 22:21                             ` Neil Brown
2010-07-07 22:25                               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2010-07-08  0:03                               ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-08  5:03                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-07-08 10:40                               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-08 11:52                                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-07-08 12:21                                 ` Neil Brown
2010-07-09 18:42                                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-10  4:58                                     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07  7:40           ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-07 15:05             ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 17:02               ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-07 17:37                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-07-07 18:05                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-07-07 23:49                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-07 18:18                 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-07-07 20:39                 ` Alan Cox
2010-07-07 23:54                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-02  4:02     ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-02  7:05       ` hch
2010-07-02 16:12         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-02 22:09           ` Neil Brown
2010-07-02 22:47             ` Andreas Dilger
2010-07-03 16:04             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V

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