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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] writeback: sync old inodes first in background writeback
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:40:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100719144046.GR13117@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100719142145.GD12510@infradead.org>

On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 10:21:45AM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 02:11:29PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > 
> > A background flush work may run for ever. So it's reasonable for it to
> > mimic the kupdate behavior of syncing old/expired inodes first.
> > 
> > This behavior also makes sense from the perspective of page reclaim.
> > File pages are added to the inactive list and promoted if referenced
> > after one recycling. If not referenced, it's very easy for pages to be
> > cleaned from reclaim context which is inefficient in terms of IO. If
> > background flush is cleaning pages, it's best it cleans old pages to
> > help minimise IO from reclaim.
> 
> Yes, we absolutely do this. 

Do you mean we absolutely want to do this?

> Wu, do you have an improved version of the
> pending or should we put it in this version for now?
> 

Some insight on how the other writeback changes that are being floated
around might affect the number of dirty pages reclaim encounters would also
be helpful. The tracepoints are there for people to figure it out but any
help figuring it out is useful.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-19 14:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-19 13:11 [PATCH 0/8] Reduce writeback from page reclaim context V4 Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] vmscan: tracing: Roll up of patches currently in mmotm Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 2/8] vmscan: tracing: Update trace event to track if page reclaim IO is for anon or file pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:24   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 14:15   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:24     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:26       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] vmscan: tracing: Update post-processing script to distinguish between anon and file IO from page reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:32   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 18:25   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 22:14   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-20 13:45     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-20 22:02       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 11:36         ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 11:52         ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 12:01           ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-21 14:27             ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 23:57               ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-22  9:19                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-22  9:22                   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-21 13:04           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 13:38             ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 14:28               ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 14:31                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 14:39                   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 15:06                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26  8:29               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  9:12                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:19                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:53                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 13:03                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] fs,btrfs: Allow kswapd to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 18:27   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] fs,xfs: " Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:43     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] writeback: sync old inodes first in background writeback Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:40     ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-07-19 14:48       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-22  8:52       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  9:02         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  9:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 10:48           ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23  9:45             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 10:57               ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 11:49                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 12:20                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-25 10:43                 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-25 12:03                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26  3:27                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  4:11                       ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26  4:37                         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 16:30                           ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26 22:48                             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  3:08                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  3:11                     ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-26  3:17                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 15:34           ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-23 11:59             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  9:42         ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23  8:33           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22  1:13     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-19 18:43   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:37     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 22:48       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-20 14:10         ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-20 22:05           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-19 18:59   ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 22:26   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-26  7:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26  9:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:27       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:57         ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 13:10           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 13:35             ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 14:24               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:34                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:40                   ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 14:55                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:38                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 15:21                   ` Wu Fengguang

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