From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] writeback: sync old inodes first in background writeback
Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:45:15 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100723094515.GD5043@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100722104823.GF13117@csn.ul.ie>
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 06:48:23PM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 05:21:55PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > I guess this new patch is more problem oriented and acceptable:
> > >
> > > --- linux-next.orig/mm/vmscan.c 2010-07-22 16:36:58.000000000 +0800
> > > +++ linux-next/mm/vmscan.c 2010-07-22 16:39:57.000000000 +0800
> > > @@ -1217,7 +1217,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_inactive_lis
> > > count_vm_events(PGDEACTIVATE, nr_active);
> > >
> > > nr_freed += shrink_page_list(&page_list, sc,
> > > - PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC);
> > > + priority < DEF_PRIORITY / 3 ?
> > > + PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC : PAGEOUT_IO_ASYNC);
> > > }
> > >
> > > nr_reclaimed += nr_freed;
> >
> > This one looks better:
> > ---
> > vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls
> >
> > Fix "system goes totally unresponsive with many dirty/writeback pages"
> > problem:
> >
> > http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86
> >
> > The root cause is, wait_on_page_writeback() is called too early in the
> > direct reclaim path, which blocks many random/unrelated processes when
> > some slow (USB stick) writeback is on the way.
> >
>
> So, what's the bet if lumpy reclaim is a factor that it's
> high-order-but-low-cost such as fork() that are getting caught by this since
> [78dc583d: vmscan: low order lumpy reclaim also should use PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC]
> was introduced?
Sorry I'm a bit confused by your wording..
> That could manifest to the user as stalls creating new processes when under
> heavy IO. I would be surprised it would freeze the entire system but certainly
> any new work would feel very slow.
>
> > A simple dd can easily create a big range of dirty pages in the LRU
> > list. Therefore priority can easily go below (DEF_PRIORITY - 2) in a
> > typical desktop, which triggers the lumpy reclaim mode and hence
> > wait_on_page_writeback().
> >
>
> which triggers the lumpy reclaim mode for high-order allocations.
Exactly. Changelog updated.
> lumpy reclaim mode is not something that is triggered just because priority
> is high.
Right.
> I think there is a second possibility for causing stalls as well that is
> unrelated to lumpy reclaim. Once dirty_limit is reached, new page faults may
> also result in stalls. If it is taking a long time to writeback dirty data,
> random processes could be getting stalled just because they happened to dirty
> data at the wrong time. This would be the case if the main dirtying process
> (e.g. dd) is not calling sync and dropping pages it's no longer using.
The dirty_limit throttling will slow down the dirty process to the
writeback throughput. If a process is dirtying files on sda (HDD),
it will be throttled at 80MB/s. If another process is dirtying files
on sdb (USB 1.1), it will be throttled at 1MB/s.
So dirty throttling will slow things down. However the slow down
should be smooth (a series of 100ms stalls instead of a sudden 10s
stall), and won't impact random processes (which does no read/write IO
at all).
> > In Andreas' case, 512MB/1024 = 512KB, this is way too low comparing to
> > the 22MB writeback and 190MB dirty pages. There can easily be a
> > continuous range of 512KB dirty/writeback pages in the LRU, which will
> > trigger the wait logic.
> >
> > To make it worse, when there are 50MB writeback pages and USB 1.1 is
> > writing them in 1MB/s, wait_on_page_writeback() may stuck for up to 50
> > seconds.
> >
> > So only enter sync write&wait when priority goes below DEF_PRIORITY/3,
> > or 6.25% LRU. As the default dirty throttle ratio is 20%, sync write&wait
> > will hardly be triggered by pure dirty pages.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> > mm/vmscan.c | 4 ++--
> > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> > --- linux-next.orig/mm/vmscan.c 2010-07-22 16:36:58.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/mm/vmscan.c 2010-07-22 17:03:47.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -1206,7 +1206,7 @@ static unsigned long shrink_inactive_lis
> > * but that should be acceptable to the caller
> > */
> > if (nr_freed < nr_taken && !current_is_kswapd() &&
> > - sc->lumpy_reclaim_mode) {
> > + sc->lumpy_reclaim_mode && priority < DEF_PRIORITY / 3) {
> > congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> >
>
> This will also delay waiting on congestion for really high-order
> allocations such as huge pages, some video decoder and the like which
> really should be stalling.
I absolutely agree that high order allocators should be somehow throttled.
However given that one can easily create a large _continuous_ range of
dirty LRU pages, let someone bumping all the way through the range
sounds a bit cruel..
> How about the following compile-tested diff?
> It takes the cost of the high-order allocation into account and the
> priority when deciding whether to synchronously wait or not.
Very nice patch. Thanks!
Cheers,
Fengguang
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 9c7e57c..d652e0c 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1110,6 +1110,48 @@ static int too_many_isolated(struct zone *zone, int file,
> }
>
> /*
> + * Returns true if the caller should stall on congestion and retry to clean
> + * the list of pages synchronously.
> + *
> + * If we are direct reclaiming for contiguous pages and we do not reclaim
> + * everything in the list, try again and wait for IO to complete. This
> + * will stall high-order allocations but that should be acceptable to
> + * the caller
> + */
> +static inline bool should_reclaim_stall(unsigned long nr_taken,
> + unsigned long nr_freed,
> + int priority,
> + struct scan_control *sc)
> +{
> + int lumpy_stall_priority;
> +
> + /* kswapd should not stall on sync IO */
> + if (current_is_kswapd())
> + return false;
> +
> + /* Only stall on lumpy reclaim */
> + if (!sc->lumpy_reclaim_mode)
> + return false;
> +
> + /* If we have relaimed everything on the isolated list, no stall */
> + if (nr_freed == nr_taken)
> + return false;
> +
> + /*
> + * For high-order allocations, there are two stall thresholds.
> + * High-cost allocations stall immediately where as lower
> + * order allocations such as stacks require the scanning
> + * priority to be much higher before stalling
> + */
> + if (sc->order > PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER)
> + lumpy_stall_priority = DEF_PRIORITY;
> + else
> + lumpy_stall_priority = DEF_PRIORITY / 3;
> +
> + return priority <= lumpy_stall_priority;
> +}
> +
> +/*
> * shrink_inactive_list() is a helper for shrink_zone(). It returns the number
> * of reclaimed pages
> */
> @@ -1199,14 +1241,8 @@ static unsigned long shrink_inactive_list(unsigned long max_scan,
> nr_scanned += nr_scan;
> nr_freed = shrink_page_list(&page_list, sc, PAGEOUT_IO_ASYNC);
>
> - /*
> - * If we are direct reclaiming for contiguous pages and we do
> - * not reclaim everything in the list, try again and wait
> - * for IO to complete. This will stall high-order allocations
> - * but that should be acceptable to the caller
> - */
> - if (nr_freed < nr_taken && !current_is_kswapd() &&
> - sc->lumpy_reclaim_mode) {
> + /* Check if we should syncronously wait for writeback */
> + if (should_reclaim_stall(nr_taken, nr_freed, priority, sc)) {
> congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
>
> /*
>
>
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-19 13:11 [PATCH 0/8] Reduce writeback from page reclaim context V4 Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 1/8] vmscan: tracing: Roll up of patches currently in mmotm Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 2/8] vmscan: tracing: Update trace event to track if page reclaim IO is for anon or file pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:24 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 14:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:24 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 3/8] vmscan: tracing: Update post-processing script to distinguish between anon and file IO from page reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:32 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 4/8] vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:26 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 18:25 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 22:14 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-20 13:45 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-20 22:02 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 11:36 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 11:52 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 12:01 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-21 14:27 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-22 9:19 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-22 9:22 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-07-21 13:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 13:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 14:28 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 14:31 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-21 14:39 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-21 15:06 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 8:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 9:12 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:53 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 13:03 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 5/8] fs,btrfs: Allow kswapd to writeback pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 18:27 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 6/8] fs,xfs: " Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:43 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 7/8] writeback: sync old inodes first in background writeback Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-22 8:52 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 9:02 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 9:21 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 10:48 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 9:45 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-07-23 10:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 11:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-23 12:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-25 10:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-25 12:03 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26 3:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 4:11 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26 4:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 16:30 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-26 22:48 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 3:08 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 3:11 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-26 3:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 15:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-23 11:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 9:42 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-23 8:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-22 1:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-19 18:43 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 13:11 ` [PATCH 8/8] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 14:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-19 14:37 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-19 22:48 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-20 14:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-20 22:05 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-19 18:59 ` Rik van Riel
2010-07-19 22:26 ` Johannes Weiner
2010-07-26 7:28 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 9:26 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 11:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-26 12:57 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-26 13:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 13:35 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 14:24 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:34 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:40 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 14:55 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-27 14:38 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-27 15:21 ` Wu Fengguang
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