From: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
stable@kernel.org, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>, Andreas Mohr <andi@lisas.de>,
Bill Davidsen <davidsen@tmr.com>,
Ben Gamari <bgamari.foss@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls
Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2010 15:17:35 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100730131735.GZ16655@random.random> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100728071705.GA22964@localhost>
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 03:17:05PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> Fix "system goes unresponsive under memory pressure and lots of
> dirty/writeback pages" bug.
>
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/4/4/86
>
> In the above thread, Andreas Mohr described that
>
> Invoking any command locked up for minutes (note that I'm
> talking about attempted additional I/O to the _other_,
> _unaffected_ main system HDD - such as loading some shell
> binaries -, NOT the external SSD18M!!).
>
> This happens when the two conditions are both meet:
> - under memory pressure
> - writing heavily to a slow device
>
> OOM also happens in Andreas' system. The OOM trace shows that 3
> processes are stuck in wait_on_page_writeback() in the direct reclaim
> path. One in do_fork() and the other two in unix_stream_sendmsg(). They
> are blocked on this condition:
>
> (sc->order && priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
>
> which was introduced in commit 78dc583d (vmscan: low order lumpy reclaim
> also should use PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC) one year ago. That condition may be too
> permissive. In Andreas' case, 512MB/1024 = 512KB. If the direct reclaim
> for the order-1 fork() allocation runs into a range of 512KB
> hard-to-reclaim LRU pages, it will be stalled.
>
> It's a severe problem in three ways.
Lumpy reclaim just made the system totally unusable with frequent
order 9 allocations. I nuked it long ago and replaced it with mem
compaction. You may try aa.git to test how thing goes without lumpy
reclaim. I recently also started to use mem compaction for order 1/2/3
allocations as there's no point not to use it for them, and to call
mem compaction from kswapd to satisfy order 2 GFP_ATOMIC in
replacement of blind responsiveness-destroyer lumpy.
Not sure why people insists on lumpy when we've memory compaction that
won't alter the working set and it's more effective.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-30 13:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-28 7:17 [PATCH] vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls Wu Fengguang
2010-07-28 7:49 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-28 8:46 ` [PATCH] vmscan: remove wait_on_page_writeback() from pageout() Wu Fengguang
2010-07-28 9:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-28 9:30 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-28 9:45 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-28 9:43 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-28 9:50 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-28 9:59 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-01 5:27 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-01 5:49 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-01 8:32 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-01 8:35 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-01 8:40 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-01 5:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-28 16:29 ` Minchan Kim
2010-07-28 11:40 ` Why PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls for a long time KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-28 13:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-29 10:34 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-29 14:24 ` Mel Gorman
2010-07-30 4:54 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-30 10:30 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-01 8:47 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-04 11:10 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-05 6:20 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-05 8:09 ` Andreas Mohr
2010-07-28 17:30 ` Andrew Morton
2010-07-29 1:01 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-07-30 13:17 ` Andrea Arcangeli [this message]
2010-07-30 13:31 ` [PATCH] vmscan: raise the bar to PAGEOUT_IO_SYNC stalls Mel Gorman
2010-07-31 16:13 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-07-31 17:33 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-31 17:55 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-07-31 17:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-31 18:09 ` Pekka Enberg
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