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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/13] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 06:39:29 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100805223929.GC5586@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100805170016.GE3535@quack.suse.cz>

On Fri, Aug 06, 2010 at 01:00:16AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Fri 06-08-10 00:11:03, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > writeback_inodes_wb()/__writeback_inodes_sb() are not aggressive in that
> > they only populate b_io when necessary at entrance time. When the queued
> > set of inodes are all synced, they just return, possibly with
> > wbc.nr_to_write > 0.
> > 
> > For kupdate and background writeback, there may be more eligible inodes
> > sitting in b_dirty when the current set of b_io inodes are completed. So
> > it is necessary to try another round of writeback as long as we made some
> > progress in this round. When there are no more eligible inodes, no more
> > inodes will be enqueued in queue_io(), hence nothing could/will be
> > synced and we may safely bail.
>   This looks like a sane thing to do. Just one comment below...
>  
> > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  fs/fs-writeback.c |   19 +++++++++++--------
> >  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > 
> > --- linux-next.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c	2010-08-05 23:30:27.000000000 +0800
> > +++ linux-next/fs/fs-writeback.c	2010-08-05 23:30:45.000000000 +0800
> > @@ -654,20 +654,23 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writ
> >  		wrote += MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES - wbc.nr_to_write;
> >  
> >  		/*
> > -		 * If we consumed everything, see if we have more
> > +		 * Did we write something? Try for more
> > +		 *
> > +		 * This is needed _before_ the b_more_io test because the
> > +		 * background writeback moves inodes to b_io and works on
>   Well, this applies generally to any writeback, not just a background one
> right? Whenever we process all inodes from b_io list and move them
> somewhere else than b_more_io, then this applies. Some new dirty data could
> have arrived while we were doing the write...

Right. Only that it is a requirement for background writeback.
For others this patch is not a necessity.

> I'm just afraid that in some
> pathological cases this could result in bad writeback pattern - like if
> there is some process which manages to dirty just a few pages while we are
> doing writeout, this looping could result in writing just a few pages in
> each round which is bad for fragmentation etc.

Such inodes will be redirty_tail()ed here:

                if (mapping_tagged(mapping, PAGECACHE_TAG_DIRTY)) {
                        /*
                         * We didn't write back all the pages.  nfs_writepages()
                         * sometimes bales out without doing anything.
                         */
                        inode->i_state |= I_DIRTY_PAGES;
                        if (wbc->nr_to_write <= 0) {
                                /*
                                 * slice used up: queue for next turn
                                 */
                                requeue_io(inode);
                        } else {
                                /*
                                 * Writeback blocked by something other than
                                 * congestion. Delay the inode for some time to
                                 * avoid spinning on the CPU (100% iowait)
                                 * retrying writeback of the dirty page/inode
                                 * that cannot be performed immediately.
                                 */
                                redirty_tail(inode);
                        }

>   Actually, this comment probably also applies to your patch where you
> change the queueing logic in writeback_single_inode(), doesn't it?

Can you elaborate?
 
Thanks,
Fengguang

> 
> > +		 * them in batches (in order to sync old pages first).  The
> > +		 * completion of the current batch does not necessarily mean
> > +		 * the overall work is done.
> >  		 */
> > -		if (wbc.nr_to_write <= 0)
> > +		if (wbc.nr_to_write < MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
> >  			continue;
> > +
> >  		/*
> > -		 * Didn't write everything and we don't have more IO, bail
> > +		 * Nothing written and no more inodes for IO, bail
> >  		 */
> >  		if (list_empty(&wb->b_more_io))
> >  			break;
> > -		/*
> > -		 * Did we write something? Try for more
> > -		 */
> > -		if (wbc.nr_to_write < MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES)
> > -			continue;
> > +
> >  		/*
> >  		 * Nothing written. Wait for some inode to
> >  		 * become available for writeback. Otherwise
> > 
> > 
> -- 
> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
> SUSE Labs, CR

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-05 22:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-05 16:10 [PATCH 00/13] writeback patches for 2.6.36 Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: reduce calls to global_page_state in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: avoid unnecessary calculation of bdi dirty thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-08-06 10:14   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: add comment to the dirty limits functions Wu Fengguang
2010-08-06 10:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-07 16:47     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: dont redirty tail an inode with dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: fix queue_io() ordering Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: merge for_kupdate and !for_kupdate cases Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: explicit low bound for vm.dirty_ratio Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 23:34   ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-06 12:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-10  3:12       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-08-10  3:57         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-10 13:29           ` Jan Kara
2010-08-10 18:12           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-10 18:06         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:10 ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: pass writeback_control down to move_expired_inodes() Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: kill writeback_control.more_io Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: sync expired inodes first in background writeback Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: try more writeback as long as something was written Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 17:00   ` Jan Kara
2010-08-05 22:39     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-05 22:50       ` Jan Kara
2010-08-05 16:11 ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: introduce writeback_control.inodes_written Wu Fengguang
2010-08-05 23:08 ` [PATCH 00/13] writeback patches for 2.6.36 Andrew Morton

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