From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Jens Axboe <jaxboe@fusionio.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hch@infradead.org" <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3 v2] mm: Stop background writeback if there is other work queued for the thread
Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2010 06:55:57 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100808225557.GA8013@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100808135917.GA3340@quack.suse.cz>
On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 09:59:18PM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Sun 08-08-10 07:07:26, Jens Axboe wrote:
> > On 08/08/2010 03:29 AM, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > On Sun, Aug 08, 2010 at 12:12:30PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > >> On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 04:45:35PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > >>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 20:53:17 +0200
> > >>> Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz> wrote:
> > >>>> ---
> > >>>> fs/fs-writeback.c | 8 ++++++++
> > >>>> 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
> > >>>>
> > >>>> diff --git a/fs/fs-writeback.c b/fs/fs-writeback.c
> > >>>> index d5be169..542471e 100644
> > >>>> --- a/fs/fs-writeback.c
> > >>>> +++ b/fs/fs-writeback.c
> > >>>> @@ -633,6 +633,14 @@ static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writeback *wb,
> > >>>> break;
> > >>>>
> > >>>> /*
> > >>>> + * Background writeout and kupdate-style writeback are
> > >>>> + * easily livelockable. Stop them if there is other work
> > >>>> + * to do so that e.g. sync can proceed.
> > >>>> + */
> > >>>> + if ((work->for_background || work->for_kupdate) &&
> > >>>> + !list_empty(&wb->bdi->work_list))
> > >>>> + break;
> > >>>> + /*
> > >>>
> > >>> So what happens if an application sits in a loop doing write&fsync to a
> > >>> file? The vm's call for help gets ignored and your data doesn't get
> > >>> written back for three days??
> > >>
> > >> To avoid the possibility of any such occurrence, perhaps requeuing
> > >> the work rather than cancelling it would be better? i.e. stop, put
> > >> it behind whatever work just came in and so when the new work
> > >> completes, we restart the background/expiry based writeback?
> > >
> > > That would be better. Ie. add a flag BDI_background_writeback to
> > > indicate the background work should be started after finishing with
> > > the queued works. bdi_start_background_writeback() can be modified to
> > > simply set the bit and wake up the flusher thread.
> >
> > I think that is better, we ideally want background writeout to
> > interleave smoothly with any other write activity. But why not just
> > mark the 'background writeout was interrupted' bit here when breaking,
> > and have the thread check-clear that when finishing some other piece
> > of work (or when going idle)?
> OK, although what would probably work as well would be to extend
> wb_check_old_data_flush() to also start background writeback (not only
> kupdate) if needed. Which probably makes sense regardless of any
> interruption of background writeback we might do... Maybe let's talk about
> this in some of the writeback sessions.
Good idea. Then bdi_start_background_writeback() can simply wake it
up. I'd vote for this way before hitting more requirements possibility
in future.
Thanks,
Fengguang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-08 22:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-05 18:53 [PATCH 0/3 v2] Three writeback fixes to stop sync(1) livelocks Jan Kara
2010-08-05 18:53 ` [PATCH 1/3 v2] mm: Stop background writeback if there is other work queued for the thread Jan Kara
2010-08-05 19:38 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-05 23:45 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-07 16:04 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-08 2:43 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-08 3:10 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-08 4:12 ` Dave Chinner
2010-08-08 7:29 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-08 11:07 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-08 13:59 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-08 22:55 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-05 18:53 ` [PATCH 2/3 v2] mm: Fix writeback_in_progress() Jan Kara
2010-08-05 19:37 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-05 23:06 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-06 0:10 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-08 2:25 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-05 18:53 ` [PATCH 3/3 v2] mm: Avoid resetting wb_start after each writeback round Jan Kara
2010-08-05 19:38 ` Jens Axboe
2010-08-06 0:21 ` Andrew Morton
2010-08-07 22:45 ` Jan Kara
2010-08-06 12:23 ` [PATCH 0/3 v2] Three writeback fixes to stop sync(1) livelocks Christoph Hellwig
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