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From: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>
To: "Andrew G. Morgan" <morgan@kernel.org>
Cc: "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: remove_suid bangs on xattrs
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:25:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100820122515.GA4704@hallyn.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=MXSozcAbwaifnGnL=6TGyDf7HiBjmFGZfwQ-A@mail.gmail.com>

Quoting Andrew G. Morgan (morgan@kernel.org):
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Serge E. Hallyn
> <serge.hallyn@canonical.com> wrote:
> > Quoting Chris Mason (chris.mason@oracle.com):
> >> [ sorry, corrected cc list ]
> >
> > Thanks - sorry for the inconvenience.  I'm also cc:ing Andrew Morgan
> > for another opinion.
> >
> >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 03:38:12PM -0400, Chris Mason wrote:
> >> > Hi everyone,
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking into a 2.6.35 btrfs performance regression, and perf tells
> >> > me that I'm spending a lot of time hammering on xattrs inside
> >> > remove_suid.  This is pretty surprising because I'm running as root, and
> >> > my files are not suid.  Looking back to this commit:
> >> > http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=b53767719b6cd8789392ea3e7e2eb7b8906898f0
> >> >
> >> > We've changed remove_suid's semantics from
> >> >
> >> > if (file_is_suid)
> >> >     try to remove it
> >
> > (but only if not capable(CAP_FSETID))
> 
> I disagree. I think the relevant capability test should be with
> respect to CAP_SETFCAP.
> 
> Since this is the capability that allows you to put a capability on a
> file, it should be the one to retain it if the file is modified.

I'm ok with that.

> >> > To something that always checks to see if we have removal permissions.
> >
> > (not really - security_inode_need_killpriv() shoudl return <0 only if
> > there was an actual error, and the write needs to be cancelled altogether.
> > It returns 0 if privs don't need to be removed, and >0 if they do.
> >
> >> > Was this intentional?  It didn't cause my 2.6.35 regression (that's all
> >> > my fault) but it does look wrong to me:
> >
> > If I'm thinking right, I think the key change we should make is to have
> > CAP_FSETID be honored for maintaining file capabilities.
> >
> > That would have two (good) results:
> >
> > 1. we should be able to re-arrange the code to check for CAP_FSETID
> > before bothering to check for file capabilities, so we can save the
> > getxattrs which I assume were what you were finding?  Even if it
> > wasn't the cause of your performance regression, it should be an
> > improvement.
> >
> > 2. I think it can be seen as a semantic fix.  We mostly try to
> > respect suid behavior for file caps, so it will be more consistent
> > to honor CAP_FSETID for file capabilities.
> >
> > Andrew, what do you think?
> >
> 
> I think the test should be with respect to CAP_SETFCAP, but I agree
> with the rest of your comments.

I also point out, with some shame, that on first reading Chris' email,
I had to look at that code more than I should have needed to to recall
the details.  So I think the function could stand some cleaning up/
simplifying.

I'll try to take a look at this next week.

> Lots of small writes to 'any' file also tends to bang on this code.
> I've been wondering if it might make sense to cache, in the inode,
> that a file does *not* have any capabilities associated with it. That
> way the kernel wouldn't need to look up the xattrs twice for the same
> incapable file - which is, by far, the common case.

That could also be shared with a new (old) optional xattr-free
file-backed-filecaps mount option :)

thanks,
-serge
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-20 12:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16 19:38 remove_suid bangs on xattrs Chris Mason
2010-08-16 19:44 ` Chris Mason
2010-08-18  2:41   ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-08-20  5:31     ` Andrew G. Morgan
2010-08-20 12:25       ` Serge E. Hallyn [this message]
     [not found]       ` <5E83F6C3-2B1E-4FBF-960C-27364528813C@dilger.ca>
2010-09-02 16:02         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2010-09-02 21:01           ` Andreas Dilger

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