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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@gmail.com>
To: Jeff Layton <jlayton@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jens.axboe@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ?
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2010 20:44:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100820124424.GA17022@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100820072757.6ae9741a@tlielax.poochiereds.net>

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 07:27:57AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Aug 2010 05:19:04 -0400
> Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 07:55:53AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > Since migration and pageout still set nonblocking for ->writepage, we
> > > may keep them in the near future, until VM does not start IO on itself.
> > 
> > Why does pageout() and memory migration need to be even more
> > non-blocking than the already non-blockig WB_SYNC_NONE writeout?
> > 
> 
> Just an idle thought on this...
> 
> I think a lot of the confusion here comes from the fact that we have
> sync_mode and a bunch of flags, and it's not at all clear how
> filesystems are supposed to treat the union of them. There are also
> possible unions of flags/sync_modes that never happen in practice. It's
> not always obvious though and as filesystem implementors we have to
> consider the possibility that they might occur (consider WB_SYNC_ALL +
> for_background).
> 
> Perhaps a lot of this confusion could be lifted by getting rid of the
> extra flags and adding new sync_mode's. Maybe something like:
> 
> WB_SYNC_ALL /* wait on everything to complete */
> WB_SYNC_NONE /* don't wait on anything */
> WB_SYNC_FOR_RECLAIM /* sync for reclaim */
> WB_SYNC_FOR_KUPDATED /* sync by kupdate */
> ...etc...
> 
> That does mean that all of the filesystem specific code may need to be
> touched when new modes are added and removed. I think it would be
> clearer though about what you're supposed to do in ->writepages.

No, we are moving towards the other direction :)

I just removed the definition of wbc->nonblocking and
wbc->encountered_congestion and all of the references.

Sorry for the confusion!

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-20 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20100819101525.076831ad@barsoom.rdu.redhat.com>
     [not found] ` <20100819101525.076831ad-xSBYVWDuneFaJnirhKH9O4GKTjYczspe@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 14:37   ` why are WB_SYNC_NONE COMMITs being done with FLUSH_SYNC set ? Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 14:58     ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-19 15:11       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <1282229905.6199.19.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 15:24         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-19 19:16         ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]           ` <20100819151618.5f769dc9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19 19:43             ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]               ` <1282246999.7799.66.camel-rJ7iovZKK19ZJLDQqaL3InhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-20 13:23                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-30 19:22                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-08-30 23:53                     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:33           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:53             ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 13:20               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-19 23:55     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  0:02       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-20  2:36         ` Sage Weil
2010-08-20  9:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20100820091904.GB20138-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-20 11:27           ` Jeff Layton
2010-08-20 12:44             ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-08-20 12:26           ` Wu Fengguang

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