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From: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
To: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
Cc: Andreas Dilger <andreas.dilger@oracle.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	"adilger@sun.com" <adilger@sun.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
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	"miklos@szeredi.hu" <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"sfrench@us.ibm.com" <sfrench@us.ibm.com>,
	"philippe.deniel@CEA.FR" <philippe.deniel@cea.fr>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH -V18 04/13] vfs: Allow handle based open on symlinks
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:04:13 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100825120413.7d5c5994@notabene> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=vYJDT_6YrfugE1N-k0Sj+abQBw7vQeG1GPhUP@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 11:41:10 +0200
Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 1:06 AM, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Aug 2010 01:13:52 -0600
> > Andreas Dilger <andreas.dilger@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2010-08-20, at 18:09, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de> wrote:
> >> > How about a new AT flag:  AT_FILE_HANDLE
> >> >
> >> > Meaning is that the 'dirfd' is used only to identify a filesystem (vfsmnt) and
> >> > the 'name' pointer actually points to a filehandle fragment interpreted in
> >> > that filesystem.
> 
> Why ot creating a special file system for this kind of operation ?
> I mean a vfsmnt filesystem, with each directory on the root is a
> symlink to the root of the real vfsmnt root ?
> 
> I could be even be in proc space like /proc/self/vfsmnt
> 
> path_to_handle will return a relative path from this directory like
> 0x75843558/somehandle (if X is on /usr/bin/X and usr is mounted by
> filesystem 0x75843558)
> path_to_fshandle() will return 0x75843558
> 
> opening file handle will be just a matter to thus open
> /proc/self/vfsmount/0x75843558/somehandle
> 
> Permission will be determined by vfsmount filesystem.
> 
> No need to create new syscall all te handle to filename will be handle
> by the vfsmount filesystem
> 
> We could even use at existing command. The dirfd will need to be only
> /proc/self/vfsmnt (and if you need to get a fd without mounting /proc
> create a syscall to get this fd).
> 
> Does sound plausible ?
>

I don't think so.

I'm not 100% certain what you are proposing, but I think the basic idea is a
virtual filesystem where giving a textual filehandle as a name gives access
to the file with that filehandle.

This could only work by creating a virtual symlink from the name to the
object in whichever filesystem - somewhat like /proc/self/fd/*.
This could be used to open the file, not to create a hard-link or read a
symlink which are two of the issues we are struggling with.

Maybe I have misunderstood you though.

NeilBrown
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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-25  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-20  1:51 [PATCH -V18 0/13] Generic name to handle and open by handle syscalls Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 01/13] exportfs: Return the minimum required handle size Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 02/13] vfs: Add name to file handle conversion support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 03/13] vfs: Add open by file handle support Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 04/13] vfs: Allow handle based open on symlinks Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  2:13   ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-20  6:53     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-20  8:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20  9:53     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-20 11:51       ` Al Viro
2010-08-21  0:09         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-21  7:13           ` Andreas Dilger
2010-08-21  9:32             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-22 23:06             ` Neil Brown
2010-08-23  1:24               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-23  1:52                 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-24 10:40                   ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-23  2:49               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-25  2:06                 ` Neil Brown
2010-08-24  9:41               ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-08-25  2:04                 ` Neil Brown [this message]
2010-08-25  9:13                   ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2010-08-21  8:30           ` Nick Piggin
2010-08-21  9:42             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-22  2:02               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-24  7:21               ` Nick Piggin
2010-08-24 10:34                 ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-24 13:19                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2010-08-22 23:17             ` Neil Brown
2010-08-24  7:29               ` Nick Piggin
2010-08-21  9:31           ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-20 13:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-08-20 23:47         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-20 14:38     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 05/13] vfs: Support null pathname in readlink Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  8:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-08-20 10:04     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-20 14:43     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 06/13] vfs: Support null pathname in faccessat Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 07/13] vfs: Support null pathname in linkat Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 08/13] x86: Add new syscalls for x86_32 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 09/13] x86: Add new syscalls for x86_64 Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 10/13] unistd.h: Add new syscalls numbers to asm-generic Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 11/13] vfs: Export file system uuid via /proc/<pid>/mountinfo Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 12/13] ext3: Copy fs UUID to superblock Aneesh Kumar K.V
2010-08-20  1:51 ` [PATCH -V18 13/13] ext4: " Aneesh Kumar K.V

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