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From: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
To: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
Cc: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Li Shaohua <shaohua.li@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] writeback: Do not congestion sleep when there are no congested BDIs
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:34:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100827093430.GD19556@csn.ul.ie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100827011106.GB7353@localhost>

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:11:06AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 04:23:24AM +0800, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 08:17:35PM +0200, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 06:42:45PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 02:38:43AM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
> > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 04:14:16PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > > > If congestion_wait() is called with no BDIs congested, the caller will
> > > > > > sleep for the full timeout and this is an unnecessary sleep. This patch
> > > > > > checks if there are BDIs congested. If so, it goes to sleep as normal.
> > > > > > If not, it calls cond_resched() to ensure the caller is not hogging the
> > > > > > CPU longer than its quota but otherwise will not sleep.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > This is aimed at reducing some of the major desktop stalls reported during
> > > > > > IO. For example, while kswapd is operating, it calls congestion_wait()
> > > > > > but it could just have been reclaiming clean page cache pages with no
> > > > > > congestion. Without this patch, it would sleep for a full timeout but after
> > > > > > this patch, it'll just call schedule() if it has been on the CPU too long.
> > > > > > Similar logic applies to direct reclaimers that are not making enough
> > > > > > progress.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  mm/backing-dev.c |   20 ++++++++++++++------
> > > > > >  1 files changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/mm/backing-dev.c b/mm/backing-dev.c
> > > > > > index a49167f..6abe860 100644
> > > > > > --- a/mm/backing-dev.c
> > > > > > +++ b/mm/backing-dev.c
> > > > > 
> > > > > Function's decripton should be changed since we don't wait next write any more. 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > My bad. I need to check that "next write" thing. It doesn't appear to be
> > > > happening but maybe that side of things just broke somewhere in the
> > > > distant past. I lack context of how this is meant to work so maybe
> > > > someone will educate me.
> > > 
> > > On every retired io request the congestion state on the bdi is checked
> > > and the congestion waitqueue woken up.
> > > 
> > > So without congestion, we still only wait until the next write
> > > retires, but without any IO, we sleep the full timeout.
> > > 
> > > Check __freed_requests() in block/blk-core.c.
> > > 
> > 
> > Seems reasonable. Still, if there is no write IO going on and no
> > congestion there seems to be no point going to sleep for the full
> > timeout. It still feels wrong.
> 
> Yeah the stupid sleeping feels wrong. However there are ~20
> congestion_wait() callers spread randomly in VM, FS and block drivers.
> Many of them may be added by rule of thumb, however what if some of
> them happen to depend on the old stupid sleeping behavior? Obviously
> you've done extensive tests on the page reclaim paths, however that's
> far from enough to cover the wider changes made by this patch.
> 
> We may have to do the conversions case by case. Converting to
> congestion_wait_check() (see http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/8/18/292) or
> other waiting schemes.
> 

I am taking this direction now.

-- 
Mel Gorman
Part-time Phd Student                          Linux Technology Center
University of Limerick                         IBM Dublin Software Lab

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27  9:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 15:14 [RFC PATCH 0/3] Do not wait the full timeout on congestion_wait when there is no congestion Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 1/3] writeback: Account for time spent congestion_waited Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:23   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 18:10   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 2/3] writeback: Record if the congestion was unnecessary Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:35   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:41     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 18:29   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 20:31     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  2:12       ` Shaohua Li
2010-08-27  9:20         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  8:16       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-27  9:24         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-30 13:19           ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-31 15:02             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-02 15:49               ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-02 18:28                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-29 16:03     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 15:14 ` [PATCH 3/3] writeback: Do not congestion sleep when there are no congested BDIs Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:38   ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:42     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 18:17       ` Johannes Weiner
2010-08-26 20:23         ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  1:11           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:34             ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2010-08-27  1:42         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:37           ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-27  5:13   ` Dave Chinner
2010-08-27  9:33     ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:20 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] Do not wait the full timeout on congestion_wait when there is no congestion Minchan Kim
2010-08-26 17:31   ` Mel Gorman
2010-08-26 17:50     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  1:21   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  1:41     ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  1:50       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  2:02         ` Minchan Kim
2010-08-27  4:34           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-08-27  9:38     ` Mel Gorman

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