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From: Valerie Aurora <vaurora@redhat.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk, jblunck@suse.de, hch@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] hybrid union filesystem prototype
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 14:38:43 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100830183843.GB2444@shell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100827213502.31af4a4c@notabene>

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 09:35:02PM +1000, Neil Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 10:47:39 +0200
> Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu> wrote:
> > > Changes to underlying filesystems
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > 
> > 
> > For now I refuse to even think about what happens in this case.
> > 
> > The easiest way out of this mess might simply be to enforce exclusive
> > modification to the underlying filesystems on a local level, same as
> > the union mount strategy.  For NFS and other remote filesystems we
> > either
> > 
> >  a) add some way to enforce it,
> >  b) live with the consequences if not enforced on the system level, or
> >  c) disallow them to be part of the union.
> > 
> 
> I actually think that your approach can work quite will with either the
> upper or lower changing independently.  Certainly it can produce some odd
> situations, but even NFS can do that (though maybe not quite so odd).

I'm very curious about your thoughts on how to handle the lower layer
changing.  Al Viro's comments:

http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0802.0/0839.html

Do you see something we're missing?

-VAL

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-30 18:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-26 18:33 [PATCH 0/5] hybrid union filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-26 18:33 ` [PATCH 1/5] vfs: implement open "forwarding" Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-26 18:33 ` [PATCH 2/5] vfs: make i_op->permission take a dentry instead of an inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-26 20:24   ` David P. Quigley
2010-08-27  4:11     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-27 18:13       ` David P. Quigley
2010-08-27 19:21         ` Valerie Aurora
2010-08-27 18:31       ` David P. Quigley
2010-08-26 18:33 ` [PATCH 3/5] vfs: add flag to allow rename to same inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-26 18:33 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-26 18:33 ` [PATCH 5/5] union: hybrid union filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-01 21:42   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-02  9:19     ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-02 21:33       ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-03  5:10         ` Neil Brown
2010-09-03  9:16           ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-09 16:02             ` David P. Quigley
2010-09-03  8:52         ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-02 21:42   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-03 12:31     ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-27  7:05 ` [PATCH 0/5] " Neil Brown
2010-08-27  8:47   ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-27 11:35     ` Neil Brown
2010-08-27 16:53       ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-29  4:42         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-30 10:18           ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-30 11:40             ` Neil Brown
2010-08-30 12:20               ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-31 19:18                 ` Valerie Aurora
2010-08-31 20:19                   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-01  1:56                     ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-01  4:04                       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-09-01  4:33               ` Neil Brown
2010-09-01 20:11                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-31 19:29             ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-02 13:15             ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-09-02 13:32               ` Neil Brown
2010-09-02 14:25                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-09-02 14:28                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-08 19:47                     ` David P. Quigley
2010-09-23 13:18                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2010-09-23 19:22                     ` Valerie Aurora
2010-08-30 18:38       ` Valerie Aurora [this message]
2010-08-30 23:12         ` Neil Brown
2010-08-31 11:00           ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-08-31 11:24             ` Neil Brown
2010-08-31 15:05               ` Kyle Moffett
2010-08-31 20:36                 ` Valerie Aurora

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