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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linux Kernel List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] writeback: Do not congestion sleep if there are no congested BDIs or significant writeback
Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 14:23:30 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100908142330.416056a1.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1283770053-18833-4-git-send-email-mel@csn.ul.ie>

On Mon,  6 Sep 2010 11:47:26 +0100
Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie> wrote:

> If congestion_wait() is called with no BDIs congested, the caller will sleep
> for the full timeout and this may be an unnecessary sleep. This patch adds
> a wait_iff_congested() that checks congestion and only sleeps if a BDI is
> congested or if there is a significant amount of writeback going on in an
> interesting zone. Else, it calls cond_resched() to ensure the caller is
> not hogging the CPU longer than its quota but otherwise will not sleep.
> 
> This is aimed at reducing some of the major desktop stalls reported during
> IO. For example, while kswapd is operating, it calls congestion_wait()
> but it could just have been reclaiming clean page cache pages with no
> congestion. Without this patch, it would sleep for a full timeout but after
> this patch, it'll just call schedule() if it has been on the CPU too long.
> Similar logic applies to direct reclaimers that are not making enough
> progress.
> 

The patch series looks generally good.  Would like to see some testing
results ;)  A few touchups are planned so I'll await v2.

> --- a/mm/backing-dev.c
> +++ b/mm/backing-dev.c
> @@ -724,6 +724,7 @@ static wait_queue_head_t congestion_wqh[2] = {
>  		__WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD_INITIALIZER(congestion_wqh[0]),
>  		__WAIT_QUEUE_HEAD_INITIALIZER(congestion_wqh[1])
>  	};
> +static atomic_t nr_bdi_congested[2];

Let's remember that a queue can get congested because of reads as well
as writes.  It's very rare for this to happen - it needs either a
zillion read()ing threads or someone going berzerk with O_DIRECT aio,
etc.  Probably it doesn't matter much, but for memory reclaim purposes
read-congestion is somewhat irrelevant and a bit of thought is warranted.

vmscan currently only looks at *write* congestion, but in this patch
you secretly change that logic to newly look at write-or-read
congestion.  Talk to me.

>  void clear_bdi_congested(struct backing_dev_info *bdi, int sync)
>  {
> @@ -731,7 +732,8 @@ void clear_bdi_congested(struct backing_dev_info *bdi, int sync)
>  	wait_queue_head_t *wqh = &congestion_wqh[sync];
>  
>  	bit = sync ? BDI_sync_congested : BDI_async_congested;
> -	clear_bit(bit, &bdi->state);
> +	if (test_and_clear_bit(bit, &bdi->state))
> +		atomic_dec(&nr_bdi_congested[sync]);
>  	smp_mb__after_clear_bit();
>  	if (waitqueue_active(wqh))
>  		wake_up(wqh);

Worried.  Having a single slow disk getting itself gummed up will
affect the entire machine!

There's potential for pathological corner-case problems here.  "When I
do a big aio read from /dev/MySuckyUsbStick, all my CPUs get pegged in
page reclaim!".

What to do?

Of course, we'd very much prefer to know whether a queue which we're
interested in for writeback will block when we try to write to it. 
Much better than looking at all queues.

Important question: which of teh current congestion_wait() call sites
are causing appreciable stalls?

I think a more accurate way of implementing this is to be smarter with
the may_write_to_queue()->bdi_write_congested() result.  If a previous
attempt to write off this LRU encountered congestion then fine, call
congestion_wait().  But if writeback is not hitting
may_write_to_queue()->bdi_write_congested() then that is the time to
avoid calling congestion_wait().

In other words, save the bdi_write_congested() result in the zone
struct in some fashion and inspect that before deciding to synchronize
behind the underlying device's write rate.  Not hitting a congested
device for this LRU?  Then don't wait for congested devices.

> @@ -774,3 +777,62 @@ long congestion_wait(int sync, long timeout)
>  }
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL(congestion_wait);
>  
> +/**
> + * congestion_wait - wait for a backing_dev to become uncongested
> + * @zone: A zone to consider the number of being being written back from

That comments needs help.

> + * @sync: SYNC or ASYNC IO
> + * @timeout: timeout in jiffies
> + *
> + * Waits for up to @timeout jiffies for a backing_dev (any backing_dev) to exit
> + * write congestion.'

write or read congestion!!

>  If no backing_devs are congested then the number of
> + * writeback pages in the zone are checked and compared to the inactive
> + * list. If there is no sigificant writeback or congestion, there is no point
> + * in sleeping but cond_resched() is called in case the current process has
> + * consumed its CPU quota.
> + */

Document the return value?

> +long wait_iff_congested(struct zone *zone, int sync, long timeout)
> +{
> +	long ret;
> +	unsigned long start = jiffies;
> +	DEFINE_WAIT(wait);
> +	wait_queue_head_t *wqh = &congestion_wqh[sync];
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * If there is no congestion, check the amount of writeback. If there
> +	 * is no significant writeback and no congestion, just cond_resched
> +	 */
> +	if (atomic_read(&nr_bdi_congested[sync]) == 0) {
> +		unsigned long inactive, writeback;
> +
> +		inactive = zone_page_state(zone, NR_INACTIVE_FILE) +
> +				zone_page_state(zone, NR_INACTIVE_ANON);
> +		writeback = zone_page_state(zone, NR_WRITEBACK);
> +
> +		/*
> +		 * If less than half the inactive list is being written back,
> +		 * reclaim might as well continue
> +		 */
> +		if (writeback < inactive / 2) {

This is all getting seriously inaccurate :(

> +			cond_resched();
> +
> +			/* In case we scheduled, work out time remaining */
> +			ret = timeout - (jiffies - start);
> +			if (ret < 0)
> +				ret = 0;
> +
> +			goto out;
> +		}
> +	}
> +
> +	/* Sleep until uncongested or a write happens */
> +	prepare_to_wait(wqh, &wait, TASK_UNINTERRUPTIBLE);
> +	ret = io_schedule_timeout(timeout);
> +	finish_wait(wqh, &wait);
> +
> +out:
> +	trace_writeback_wait_iff_congested(jiffies_to_usecs(timeout),
> +					jiffies_to_usecs(jiffies - start));

Does this tracepoint tell us how often wait_iff_congested() is sleeping
versus how often it is returning immediately?

> +	return ret;
> +}
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL(wait_iff_congested);
>
> ...
>
> @@ -1913,10 +1913,28 @@ static unsigned long do_try_to_free_pages(struct zonelist *zonelist,
>  			sc->may_writepage = 1;
>  		}
>  
> -		/* Take a nap, wait for some writeback to complete */
> +		/* Take a nap if congested, wait for some writeback */
>  		if (!sc->hibernation_mode && sc->nr_scanned &&
> -		    priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2)
> -			congestion_wait(BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> +		    priority < DEF_PRIORITY - 2) {
> +			struct zone *active_zone = NULL;
> +			unsigned long max_writeback = 0;
> +			for_each_zone_zonelist(zone, z, zonelist,
> +					gfp_zone(sc->gfp_mask)) {
> +				unsigned long writeback;
> +
> +				/* Initialise for first zone */
> +				if (active_zone == NULL)
> +					active_zone = zone;
> +
> +				writeback = zone_page_state(zone, NR_WRITEBACK);
> +				if (writeback > max_writeback) {
> +					max_writeback = writeback;
> +					active_zone = zone;
> +				}
> +			}
> +
> +			wait_iff_congested(active_zone, BLK_RW_ASYNC, HZ/10);
> +		}

Again, we would benefit from more accuracy here.  In my above
suggestion I'm assuming that the (congestion) result of the most recent
attempt to perform writeback is a predictor of the next attempt.

Doing that on a kernel-wide basis would be rather inaccurate on large
machines in some scenarios.  Storing the state info in the zone would
help.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-08 21:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-06 10:47 [PATCH 0/9] Reduce latencies and improve overall reclaim efficiency v1 Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 01/10] tracing, vmscan: Add trace events for LRU list shrinking Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 02/10] writeback: Account for time spent congestion_waited Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 03/10] writeback: Do not congestion sleep if there are no congested BDIs or significant writeback Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:25   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:04     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 14:52       ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-09  8:54         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-12 15:37           ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13  8:55             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  9:48               ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 10:07                 ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 10:20                   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-13 10:30                     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 21:23   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-09-09 10:43     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:02   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  8:58     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] vmscan: Synchronous lumpy reclaim should not call congestion_wait() Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:26   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08  6:15   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08 11:25   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  3:03   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] vmscan: Synchrounous lumpy reclaim use lock_page() instead trylock_page() Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:28   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08  6:16   ` Johannes Weiner
2010-09-08 11:28   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  3:04   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:15     ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  3:25       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-09  4:13       ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-09  9:22         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-10 10:25           ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-10 10:33             ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-13  9:14             ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-14 10:14               ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] vmscan: Narrow the scenarios lumpy reclaim uses synchrounous reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:14   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] vmscan: Remove dead code in shrink_inactive_list() Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:33   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] vmscan: isolated_lru_pages() stop neighbour search if neighbour cannot be isolated Mel Gorman
2010-09-07 15:37   ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:12     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 14:58       ` Minchan Kim
2010-09-08 11:37   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 12:50     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-08 13:14       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-08 13:27         ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:17   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] vmscan: Do not writeback filesystem pages in direct reclaim Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 13:31   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 13:55     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 14:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-10-28 21:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-29 10:26     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-06 10:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] vmscan: Kick flusher threads to clean pages when reclaim is encountering dirty pages Mel Gorman
2010-09-09  3:22   ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-09  9:32     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13  0:53       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2010-09-13 13:48   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-13 14:10     ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 14:41       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-09-06 10:49 ` [PATCH 0/9] Reduce latencies and improve overall reclaim efficiency v1 Mel Gorman
2010-09-08  3:14 ` KOSAKI Motohiro
2010-09-08  8:38   ` Mel Gorman
2010-09-13 23:10 ` Minchan Kim

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