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From: Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>
To: Valerie Aurora <vaurora@redhat.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linuxram@us.ibm.com, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, neilb@suse.de,
	viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7 v3] overlay: hybrid overlay filesystem prototype
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:24:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009281025.00727.agruen@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100927184747.GC8089@shell>

On Monday 27 September 2010 20:47:47 Valerie Aurora wrote:
> Maybe I don't understand.  It seems like directories created when the
> file system is *not* union mounted should definitely be merged with
> matching directories on the lower layer.
>
> Take the case of /etc/fstab.  The first union mount never touches /etc
> and it doesn't exist on the topmost layer.  Then we unmount the upper
> layer, mount it somewhere else as a plain mount, and create /etc/ and
> /etc/fstab.  When we union mount it back over the lower layer again,
> we still want the lower layer /etc/ to be merged with the topmost
> /etc/, or else init.d will disappear.

I can't think of a reason why the upper layer would really *need* to be 
modified separately as in this example though, and I'm sure that examples for 
opaqueness by default can be constructed as well.  Transparency comes at a 
cost though (lookup, readdir, whiteouts), and defaulting to opaque directories 
will be more efficient in some cases.  This is why I think that opaqueness by 
default is preferable.

> Again, maybe I'm misunderstanding, but this doesn't make much sense to
> me.  Say I create:
> 
> /upper/a_dir/upper_file
> /lower/a_dir/lower_file
> 
> Then when I union mount them, I want a_dir/ to be transparent
> automatically and show both upper_file and lower_file, without marking
> it manually.

Why?

Thanks,
Andreas

  reply	other threads:[~2010-09-28  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-20 18:04 [PATCH 0/7 v3] overlay filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 1/7 v3] vfs: implement open "forwarding" Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 2/7 v3] vfs: make i_op->permission take a dentry instead of an inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 3/7 v3] vfs: add flag to allow rename to same inode Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-23 22:04   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 4/7 v3] vfs: export do_splice_direct() to modules Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 5/7 v3] vfs: fix possible use after free in finish_open() Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-23 20:19   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 6/7 v3] overlay: hybrid overlay filesystem prototype Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-22 23:21   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-24 14:33     ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-24 17:16       ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-24 17:56   ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-27  8:11     ` Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-27 11:49       ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-09-27 12:15         ` J. R. Okajima
2010-09-27 18:47       ` Valerie Aurora
2010-09-28  8:24         ` Andreas Gruenbacher [this message]
2010-09-30 21:51           ` Valerie Aurora
2010-10-01  9:34             ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2010-10-06 17:31               ` Valerie Aurora
2010-10-11  9:41                 ` Michal Suchanek
2010-10-11 13:51                 ` Scott James Remnant
2010-09-20 18:04 ` [PATCH 7/7 v3] overlay: overlay filesystem documentation Miklos Szeredi
2010-09-21  1:31 ` [PATCH 0/7 v3] overlay filesystem prototype Neil Brown
2010-09-22  9:50   ` Miklos Szeredi

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