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From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Theodore Kilgore <kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	codalist@telemann.coda.cs.cmu.edu, autofs@linux.kernel.org,
	Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
	Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Anders Larsen <al@alarsen.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Bryan Schumaker <bjschuma@netapp.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	ksummit-2010-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Petr Vandrovec <vandrove@vc.cvut.cz>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Evgeniy Dushistov <dushistov@mail.ru>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Andrew Hendry <andrew.hendry@gmail.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [v2] Remaining BKL users, what to do
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:54:46 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101019135445.GA19367@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287491998.16971.360.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 08:39:58AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 09:26 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 October 2010 06:52:32 Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > > I might be able to find some hardware still lying around here that uses an
> > > > i810. Not sure unless I go hunting it. But I get the impression that if
> > > > the kernel is a single-CPU kernel there is not any problem anyway? Don't
> > > > distros offer a non-smp kernel as an installation option in case the user
> > > > needs it? So in reality how big a problem is this?
> > > 
> > > Not anymore, which is my old point of making a fuss. Nowadays in the
> > > modern distro world, we supply a single kernel that can at runtime
> > > decide if its running on SMP or UP and rewrite the text section
> > > appropriately with locks etc. Its like magic, and something like
> > > marking drivers as BROKEN_ON_SMP at compile time is really wrong when
> > > what you want now is a runtime warning if someone tries to hotplug a
> > > CPU with a known iffy driver loaded or if someone tries to load the
> > > driver when we are already in SMP mode.
> > 
> > We could make the driver run-time non-SMP by adding
> > 
> > 	if (num_present_cpus() > 1) {
> > 		pr_err("i810 no longer supports SMP\n");
> > 		return -EINVAL;
> > 	}
> > 
> > to the init function. That would cover the vast majority of the
> > users of i810 hardware, I guess.
> 
> I think we also need to cover the PREEMPT case too. But that could be a
> compile time check, since you can't boot a preempt kernel and make it
> non preempt.
> 
There are enough nameless embedded vendors that have turned a preempt
kernel in to a non-preempt one at run-time by leaking the preempt count,
whether by design or not, so it's certainly possile :-)

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-19 13:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-16 14:32 Remaining BKL users, what to do Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 18:32   ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-17 18:46     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 15:04 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 21:26   ` Anton Altaparmakov
2010-09-17 10:45     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 13:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:50         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 14:02           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 14:56             ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 19:00               ` [PATCH] BKL: Remove BKL from isofs Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 10:58                 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 11:13                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 15:18                     ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 15:40                       ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2010-09-20 15:50                         ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 15:07 ` Remaining BKL users, what to do Alan Cox
2010-09-16 20:08   ` David Miller
2010-09-16 16:09 ` Anders Larsen
2010-09-16 16:57 ` Samuel Ortiz
2010-09-16 20:08   ` David Miller
2010-09-16 19:00 ` Jan Harkes
2010-09-16 19:26   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20  1:25 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2010-10-18 15:42 ` [v2] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 16:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 17:38     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 18:43   ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] " Greg KH
2010-10-18 23:00     ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  0:40       ` Greg KH
2010-10-19  0:57         ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  2:24           ` Greg KH
2010-10-19  2:45             ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  3:33               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19  4:03                 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  5:00                 ` Theodore Kilgore
2010-10-19  4:52                   ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19  7:26                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 12:39                       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 13:54                         ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2010-10-19 13:26                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:50                         ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-20 16:14                           ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-10-19 18:24         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-10-19 19:37           ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 19:40             ` Oliver Neukum
2010-10-19 20:29               ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 20:38                 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-10-19 20:41                 ` Alan Cox
2010-10-19 20:48                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:44                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-20  4:43                   ` Dave Young
2010-10-20  6:50                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-02  1:21                   ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-03  6:58                     ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-21 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 13:38   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 13:50     ` [PATCH 1/2] BKL: remove BKL from qnx4 Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 15:22       ` Anders Larsen
2010-10-21 13:51     ` [PATCH 2/2] BKL: remove BKL from freevxfs Arnd Bergmann

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