From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
Theodore Kilgore <kilgota@banach.math.auburn.edu>,
Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
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Samuel Ortiz <samuel@sortiz.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Mikulas Patocka <mikulas@artax.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>,
Jan Harkes <jaharkes@cs.cmu.edu>,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, Anders Larsen <al@alarsen.net>,
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Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
ksummit-2010-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
Petr Vandrovec <vandrove@vc.cvut.cz>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@ghostprotocols.net>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
Evgeniy Dushistov <dushistov@mail.ru>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
Andrew Hendry <andrew.hendry@gmail.com>,
linux-media@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2010-discuss] [v2] Remaining BKL users, what to do
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:54:46 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101019135445.GA19367@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1287491998.16971.360.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 08:39:58AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 09:26 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > On Tuesday 19 October 2010 06:52:32 Dave Airlie wrote:
> > > > I might be able to find some hardware still lying around here that uses an
> > > > i810. Not sure unless I go hunting it. But I get the impression that if
> > > > the kernel is a single-CPU kernel there is not any problem anyway? Don't
> > > > distros offer a non-smp kernel as an installation option in case the user
> > > > needs it? So in reality how big a problem is this?
> > >
> > > Not anymore, which is my old point of making a fuss. Nowadays in the
> > > modern distro world, we supply a single kernel that can at runtime
> > > decide if its running on SMP or UP and rewrite the text section
> > > appropriately with locks etc. Its like magic, and something like
> > > marking drivers as BROKEN_ON_SMP at compile time is really wrong when
> > > what you want now is a runtime warning if someone tries to hotplug a
> > > CPU with a known iffy driver loaded or if someone tries to load the
> > > driver when we are already in SMP mode.
> >
> > We could make the driver run-time non-SMP by adding
> >
> > if (num_present_cpus() > 1) {
> > pr_err("i810 no longer supports SMP\n");
> > return -EINVAL;
> > }
> >
> > to the init function. That would cover the vast majority of the
> > users of i810 hardware, I guess.
>
> I think we also need to cover the PREEMPT case too. But that could be a
> compile time check, since you can't boot a preempt kernel and make it
> non preempt.
>
There are enough nameless embedded vendors that have turned a preempt
kernel in to a non-preempt one at run-time by leaking the preempt count,
whether by design or not, so it's certainly possile :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-10-19 13:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-16 14:32 Remaining BKL users, what to do Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 14:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 18:32 ` Jens Axboe
2010-09-17 18:46 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-16 15:04 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 21:26 ` Anton Altaparmakov
2010-09-17 10:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 13:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 14:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-09-17 14:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-17 19:00 ` [PATCH] BKL: Remove BKL from isofs Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 10:58 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 11:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 15:18 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-20 15:40 ` Alexander E. Patrakov
2010-09-20 15:50 ` Jan Kara
2010-09-16 15:07 ` Remaining BKL users, what to do Alan Cox
2010-09-16 20:08 ` David Miller
2010-09-16 16:09 ` Anders Larsen
2010-09-16 16:57 ` Samuel Ortiz
2010-09-16 20:08 ` David Miller
2010-09-16 19:00 ` Jan Harkes
2010-09-16 19:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-09-20 1:25 ` [autofs] " Ian Kent
2010-10-18 15:42 ` [v2] " Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 16:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-18 17:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-18 18:43 ` [Ksummit-2010-discuss] " Greg KH
2010-10-18 23:00 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 0:40 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 0:57 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 2:24 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 2:45 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 3:33 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 4:03 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 5:00 ` Theodore Kilgore
2010-10-19 4:52 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-19 7:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 12:39 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-10-19 13:54 ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2010-10-19 13:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:50 ` Dave Airlie
2010-10-20 16:14 ` Ville Syrjälä
2010-10-19 18:24 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-10-19 19:37 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 19:40 ` Oliver Neukum
2010-10-19 20:29 ` Greg KH
2010-10-19 20:38 ` Jiri Kosina
2010-10-19 20:41 ` Alan Cox
2010-10-19 20:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-19 20:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-20 4:43 ` Dave Young
2010-10-20 6:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-11-02 1:21 ` Pavel Machek
2010-11-03 6:58 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-10-21 12:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-21 13:38 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 13:50 ` [PATCH 1/2] BKL: remove BKL from qnx4 Arnd Bergmann
2010-10-21 15:22 ` Anders Larsen
2010-10-21 13:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] BKL: remove BKL from freevxfs Arnd Bergmann
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