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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>, Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/18] fs: Introduce per-bucket inode hash locks
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 14:11:05 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101020031105.GI3740@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101019165044.GA13531@infradead.org>

On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 12:50:44PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 06:00:57PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > But it is still "magic". Because you don't even know whether it
> > is a spin or sleeping lock, let alone whether it is irq or bh safe.
> > You get far more information seeing a bit_spin_lock(0, &hlist) call
> > than hlist_lock().
> > 
> > Even if you do rename them to hlist_bit_spin_lock, etc. Then you need
> > to add variants for each type of locking a caller wants to do on it.
> > Ask Linus what he thinks about that.
> 
> And why do we need all these versions?  We never had irqsave or bhsave
> versions of bitlocks.  The only thing we might eventually want are
> trylock and is_locked operations once we grow user of it.

Or sleeping locks. And there is no reason not to have irqsave or
bhsave versions of bitlocks (which could enable interrupts etc on
a contended lock) but they just haven't been put in yet. If someone
needs them, and implements them in the bitlock code, everybody can
use them.


> To get back a bit to the point:
> 
>  - we have a new bl_hlist sturcture which combines a hash list and a
>    lock embedded into the head
>  - the reason why we do it is to be able to use a bitlock

To use bit 0 as a lock bit, yes. But if another use for the API was
required like to store some other OOB state (not a lock), then some
assertions can come out of the hlist_bl code quite easily and it
can be extended to have an arbitrary bit there. (or several arbitrary
bits if the pointer is aligned correctly).

  
> Now your initial version exposed the ugly defaults of that to the user
> which is required to case the hash head to and unsigned long and use
> bit_spin_lock on bit 0 of it.  There's zero abstraction and a lot
> internal gutting required there.

What do you mean zero abstraction? It changes all the hlist operations
to handle bit 0 as lock bit.

Locking and unlocking a bit, we already have abstractions for. They work
really well, and nobody has to check the implementation to know what
they do.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-10-20  3:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 162+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-10-08  5:21 fs: Inode cache scalability V2 Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 01/18] kernel: add bl_list Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:18   ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08 10:33     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 02/18] fs: Convert nr_inodes and nr_unused to per-cpu counters Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 03/18] fs: keep inode with backing-dev Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:27     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 04/18] fs: Implement lazy LRU updates for inodes Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:08   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:31     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  9:08   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08  9:51     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 05/18] fs: inode split IO and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:14   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:38     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  9:16   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08  9:58     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 06/18] fs: Clean up inode reference counting Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:46     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 07/18] exofs: use iput() for inode reference count decrements Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16  7:56   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17 15:41       ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 08/18] fs: add inode reference coutn read accessor Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 09/18] fs: rework icount to be a locked variable Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:27   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:50     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:17       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 13:16         ` Chris Mason
2010-10-08  9:32   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:15     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 13:14       ` Chris Mason
2010-10-08 13:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:09         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 10/18] fs: Factor inode hash operations into functions Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:29   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  9:41     ` Al Viro
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 11/18] fs: Introduce per-bucket inode hash locks Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:33   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  7:51     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  9:49   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08  9:51     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 13:43   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:17     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 18:54   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16  7:57     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:16       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:12         ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17  0:45           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-17  2:06             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17  0:46           ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17  2:25             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-18 16:16               ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-18 16:21                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-19  7:00                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-19 16:50                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-20  3:11                       ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-10-24 15:44                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-24 21:17                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-25  4:41                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-25  7:04                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-10-26  0:12                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-26  0:06                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 12/18] fs: add a per-superblock lock for the inode list Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:35   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 13/18] fs: split locking of inode writeback and LRU lists Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:42   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  8:00     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16  7:57         ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:19             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-17  1:00               ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-17  2:20                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 14/18] fs: Protect inode->i_state with th einode->i_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  8:04     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:18       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16  7:57         ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:19           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09  8:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 14:52       ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-10  2:01         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 15/18] fs: introduce a per-cpu last_ino allocator Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:53   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  8:05     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:22   ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08  8:44     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  9:58     ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:09       ` Andi Kleen
2010-10-08 10:19         ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:20           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08  9:56   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:03     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 10:20       ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 13:48         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 14:06           ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-08 19:10             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-09 17:14             ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-16  7:57       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16 16:22         ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-16 17:21           ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 16/18] fs: Make iunique independent of inode_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  7:55   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  8:06     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 17/18] fs: icache remove inode_lock Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:03   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08  8:09     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-13  7:20   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13  7:27     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 11:28       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:03         ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 12:20           ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:25             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 10:42     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-10-13 12:07       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 11:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-13 12:30       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-13 23:23         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-14  9:06           ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-14  9:13             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-14 14:41             ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-15  0:14               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15  3:13                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15  3:30                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15  3:44                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15  6:41                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 10:59                         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15 13:03                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 13:29                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 17:33                               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 17:52                                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-15 18:02                                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 18:14                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16  2:09                                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 14:11                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 20:50                           ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 20:56                             ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15  4:04               ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 11:33                 ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-15 13:14                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-15 15:38                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-16  7:57   ` Nick Piggin
2010-10-08  5:21 ` [PATCH 18/18] fs: Reduce inode I_FREEING and factor inode disposal Dave Chinner
2010-10-08  8:11   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-08 10:18   ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 10:52     ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-08 12:10       ` Al Viro
2010-10-08 13:55         ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-09 17:22   ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-10-09  8:08 ` [PATCH 19/18] fs: split __inode_add_to_list Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-12 10:47   ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-12 11:31     ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-10-12 12:05       ` Dave Chinner
2010-10-09 11:18 ` [PATCH 20/18] fs: do not assign default i_ino in new_inode Christoph Hellwig

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