From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Nick Piggin Subject: Re: Inode Lock Scalability V7 (was V6) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:48:12 +1100 Message-ID: <20101022044812.GB6899@amd> References: <1287622186-1935-1-git-send-email-david@fromorbit.com> <20101021050422.GP32255@dastard> <20101021132034.GB13620@amd> <20101021235227.GI12506@dastard> <20101022004540.GA5920@amd> <20101022022010.GG19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> <20101022023444.GA6573@amd> <20101022024152.GA6618@amd> <20101022024834.GA6708@amd> <20101022031211.GI19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Nick Piggin , Dave Chinner , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org To: Al Viro Return-path: Received: from ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net ([150.101.137.145]:60201 "EHLO ipmail06.adl6.internode.on.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751928Ab0JVEsl (ORCPT ); Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:48:41 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20101022031211.GI19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 04:12:11AM +0100, Al Viro wrote: > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:48:34PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 01:41:52PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > > > The locking in my lock break patch is ugly and wrong, yes. But it is > > > always an intermediate step. I want to argue that with RCU inode work > > > *anyway*, there is not much point to reducing the strength of the > > > i_lock property because locking can be cleaned up nicely and still > > > keep i_lock ~= inode_lock (for a single inode). > > > > The other thing is that with RCU, the idea of locking an object in > > the data structure with a per object lock actually *is* much more > > natural. It's hard to do it properly with just a big data structure > > lock. > > > > If I want to take a reference to an inode from a data structre, how > > to do it with RCU? > > > > rcu_read_lock() > > list_for_each(inode) { > > spin_lock(&big_lock); /* oops, might as well not even use RCU then */ > > if (!unhashed) { > > iget(); > > } > > } > > Huh? Why the hell does it have to be a big lock? You grab ->i_lock, > then look at the damn thing. You also grab it on eviction from the > list - *inside* the lock used for serializing the write access to > your RCU list. That sucks, it requires more acquiring and dropping of i_lock and it hits single threaded performance. I looked at that. But it also loses the i_lock = inode_lock property.