From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mm@kvack.org" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@medozas.de>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] writeback: avoid livelocking WB_SYNC_ALL writeback
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:26:24 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101110022624.GA5167@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101109231840.GC11214@quack.suse.cz>
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 07:18:40AM +0800, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Tue 09-11-10 14:43:46, Andrew Morton wrote:
> > I don't really see how this patch changes anything. For WB_SYNC_ALL
> > requests the code will still try to write out 2^63 pages, only it does
> > it all in a single writeback_inodes_wb() call. What prevents that call
Sorry sync() works on one super block after another, so it's some
__writeback_inodes_sb() call. I'll update the comment.
> > itself from getting livelocked?
__writeback_inodes_sb() livelock is prevented by
- working on a finite set of files by doing queue_io() once at the beginning
- working on a finite set of pages by PAGECACHE_TAG_TOWRITE page tagging
> I'm referring to the livelock avoidance using page tagging. Fengguang
> actually added a note about this into a comment in the code but it's not
> in the changelog. And you're right it should be here.
OK, I'll add the above to changelog.
> > Perhaps the unmentioned problem here is that each call to
> > writeback_inodes_wb(MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES) will restart its walk across
> > the inode lists. So instead of giving up on a being-written-to-file,
> > we continuously revisit it again and again and again.
> >
> > Correct? If so, please add the description. If incorrect, please add
> > the description as well ;)
> Yes, that's the problem.
writeback_inodes_wb(MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES) will put the not full written
inode to head of b_more_io, and pick up the next inode from tail of
b_io next time it is called. Here the tail of b_io serves as the
cursor.
b_io b_more_io
|----------------|-----------------|
^head ^cursor ^tail
> > Root cause time: it's those damn per-sb inode lists *again*. They're
> > just awful. We need some data structure there which is more amenable
> > to being iterated over. Something against which we can store cursors,
> > for a start.
> This would be definitely nice. But in this particular case, since we have
> that page tagging livelock avoidance, we can just do all we need in a one
> big sweep so we are OK.
The main problem of list_head is the awkward superblock walks in
move_expired_inodes(). It may take inode_lock for too long time.
It helps to break up b_dirty into a rb-tree. That will make
redirty_tail() more straightforward, too.
> Suggestion for the new changelog:
> When wb_writeback() is called in WB_SYNC_ALL mode, work->nr_to_write is
> usually set to LONG_MAX. The logic in wb_writeback() then calls
> __writeback_inodes_sb() with nr_to_write == MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES and
> we easily end up with negative nr_to_write after the function returns.
> This is because write_cache_pages() does not stop writing when
> nr_to_write drops to zero in WB_SYNC_ALL mode.
It will return with (nr_to_write <=0) regardless of the
write_cache_pages() trick to ignore nr_to_write. So I changed the
above to:
we easily end up with non-positive nr_to_write after the function
returns, if the inode has more than MAX_WRITEBACK_PAGES dirty pages
at the moment.
Others look good. I'll repost the series with updated changelog.
Thanks,
Fengguang
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-11-10 2:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-08 23:09 [PATCH 0/5] writeback livelock fixes Wu Fengguang
2010-11-08 23:09 ` [PATCH 1/5] writeback: integrated background writeback work Wu Fengguang
2010-11-08 23:09 ` [PATCH 2/5] writeback: trace wakeup event for background writeback Wu Fengguang
2010-11-08 23:09 ` [PATCH 3/5] writeback: stop background/kupdate works from livelocking other works Wu Fengguang
2010-11-09 21:13 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-09 22:28 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-09 23:00 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-09 23:56 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-10 23:37 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-11 0:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-11 13:32 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-11 16:44 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-08 23:09 ` [PATCH 4/5] writeback: avoid livelocking WB_SYNC_ALL writeback Wu Fengguang
2010-11-09 22:43 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-09 23:18 ` Jan Kara
2010-11-10 2:26 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-11-08 23:09 ` [PATCH 5/5] writeback: check skipped pages on WB_SYNC_ALL Wu Fengguang
2010-11-09 22:47 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-09 23:16 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-08 23:23 ` [PATCH 0/5] writeback livelock fixes Wu Fengguang
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-10 2:35 [PATCH 0/5] writeback livelock fixes v2 Wu Fengguang
2010-11-10 2:35 ` [PATCH 4/5] writeback: avoid livelocking WB_SYNC_ALL writeback Wu Fengguang
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