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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [patch 1/6] fs: icache RCU free inodes
Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:12:54 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101117011254.GJ22876@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101116034906.GA4596@amd>

On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 02:49:06PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 02:02:43PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 03:21:00PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > This is 30K inodes per second per CPU, versus nearly 800K per second
> > > number that I measured the 12% slowdown with. About 25x slower.
> > 
> > Hi Nick, the ramfs (800k/12%) numbers are not the context I was
> > responding to - you're comparing apples to oranges. I was responding to
> > the "XFS [on a ramdisk] is about 4.9% slower" result.
> 
> Well xfs on ramdisk was (85k/4.9%).

How many threads? On a 2.26GHz nehalem-class Xeon CPU, I'm seeing:

threads		files/s
 1		 45k
 2		 70k
 4		130k
 8		230k

With scalability mainly limited by the dcache_lock. I'm not sure
what you 85k number relates to in the above chart. Is it a single
thread number, or something else? If it is a single thread, can you
run you numbers again with a thread per CPU?

> A a lower number, like 30k, I would
> expect that should be around 1-2% perhaps. And when in the context of a
> real workload that is not 100% CPU bound on creating and destroying a
> single inode, I expect that to be well under 1%.

I don't think we are comparing apples to apples. I cannot see how you
can get mainline XFS to sustain 85kfiles/s/cpu across any number of
CPUs, so lets make sure we are comparing the same thing....

> Like I said, I never disputed a potential regression, but I have looked
> for workloads that have a detectable regression and have not found any.
> And I have extrapolated microbenchmark numbers to show that it's not
> going to be a _big_ problem even in a worst case scenario.

How did you extrapolate the numbers?

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-17  1:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-09 12:46 [patch 1/6] fs: icache RCU free inodes Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 12:47 ` [patch 2/6] fs: icache avoid RCU freeing for pseudo fs Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 12:58 ` [patch 3/6] fs: dcache documentation cleanup Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 16:24   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 22:06     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-10 16:27       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 13:01 ` [patch 4/6] fs: d_delete change Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 16:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 22:08     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-10 16:32       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-11  0:27         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-11 22:07           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-09 13:02 ` [patch 5/6] fs: d_compare change for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 16:25   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-10  1:48     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 13:03 ` [patch 6/6] fs: d_hash " Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 14:19 ` [patch 1/6] fs: icache RCU free inodes Andi Kleen
2010-11-09 21:36   ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-10 14:47     ` Andi Kleen
2010-11-11  4:27       ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 16:02 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-09 16:21   ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 21:48     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 16:21   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-09 17:08     ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-09 17:15       ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-11-09 21:55         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 22:05       ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-12  1:24         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-12  4:48           ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-12  6:02             ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-12  6:49               ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-12 17:33                 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-11-12 23:17                   ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-15  1:00           ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-15  4:21             ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-16  3:02               ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-16  3:49                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-17  1:12                   ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-11-17  4:18                     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-17  5:56                       ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-17  6:04                         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-09 21:44   ` Nick Piggin

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