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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/13] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2010 20:30:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101124123023.GA10413@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1290597233.2072.454.camel@laptop>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 07:13:53PM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 12:27 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> 
> > @@ -578,6 +579,25 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> >  				    bdi_stat(bdi, BDI_WRITEBACK);
> >  		}
> >  
> > +		/*
> > +		 * bdi_thresh takes time to ramp up from the initial 0,
> > +		 * especially for slow devices.
> > +		 *
> > +		 * It's possible that at the moment dirty throttling starts,
> > +		 * 	bdi_dirty = nr_dirty
> > +		 * 		  = (background_thresh + dirty_thresh) / 2
> > +		 * 		  >> bdi_thresh
> > +		 * Then the task could be blocked for a dozen second to flush
> > +		 * all the exceeded (bdi_dirty - bdi_thresh) pages. So offer a
> > +		 * complementary way to break out of the loop when 250ms worth
> > +		 * of dirty pages have been cleaned during our pause time.
> > +		 */
> > +		if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh &&
> > +		    bdi_prev_dirty - bdi_dirty >
> > +		    bdi->write_bandwidth >> (PAGE_CACHE_SHIFT + 2))
> > +			break;
> > +		bdi_prev_dirty = bdi_dirty;
> > +
> >  		if (bdi_dirty >= bdi_thresh) {
> >  			pause = HZ/10;
> >  			goto pause;
> 
> 
> So we're testing to see if during our pause time (<=100ms) we've written
> out 250ms worth of pages (given our current bandwidth estimation),
> right? 
> 
> (1/4th of bandwidth in bytes/s is bytes per 0.25s) 

Right.

> (and in your recent patches you've changed the bw to pages/s so I take
> it the PAGE_CACHE_SIZE will be gone from all these sites).

Yeah. Actually I did one more fix after that. The break is designed
mainly to help single task case. It helps less for concurrent dirtier
cases, however for long run servers I guess they don't really care
some boot time lags.

For the 1-dd case, it looks better to lower the break threshold to
125ms. After all, it's not easy for the dirty pages to drop by 250ms
worth of data when you only slept 200ms (note: the max pause time has
been doubled mainly for servers).

-               if (nr_dirty < dirty_thresh &&
-                   bdi_prev_dirty - bdi_dirty > (long)bdi->write_bandwidth / 4)
+               if (nr_dirty <= dirty_thresh &&
+                   bdi_prev_dirty - bdi_dirty > (long)bdi->write_bandwidth / 8)
                        break;

Thanks,
Fengguang

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-24 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-17  4:27 [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 01/13] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 10:34   ` Minchan Kim
2010-11-22  2:01     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18 13:04   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 13:26     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-18 13:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18 14:02         ` Wu Fengguang
     [not found]     ` <20101129151719.GA30590@localhost>
     [not found]       ` <1291064013.32004.393.camel@laptop>
     [not found]         ` <20101130043735.GA22947@localhost>
     [not found]           ` <1291156522.32004.1359.camel@laptop>
     [not found]             ` <1291156765.32004.1365.camel@laptop>
     [not found]               ` <20101201133818.GA13377@localhost>
2010-12-01 23:03                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-12-02  1:56                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-05 16:14                 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-06  2:42                   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-06  9:52                     ` Dmitry
2010-12-06 12:34                       ` Ted Ts'o
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 02/13] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 03/13] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 14:39   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:23   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:43     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:49       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 04/13] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 05/13] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 10:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 06/13] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:08   ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:24     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17 23:38       ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-17 23:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-18  6:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 10:58   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:06     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:10     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:50       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:14         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:20           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 13:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 13:46               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:12                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:21                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:31                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 14:38                       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 14:34                   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 07/13] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 08/13] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:30     ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-11-24 12:46       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:59         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 09/13] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:39     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 12:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 10/13] writeback: make reasonable gap between the dirty/background thresholds Wu Fengguang
2010-11-24 11:18   ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-11-24 12:48     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 11/13] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 12/13] writeback: add trace event for balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:41   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17  4:27 ` [PATCH 13/13] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-11-17 23:03 ` [PATCH 00/13] IO-less dirty throttling v2 Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  2:06   ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  2:09     ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  3:21       ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  3:34         ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-18  7:27           ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-18  7:33             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-19  3:11               ` Dave Chinner
2010-11-24 11:12       ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-11-17  3:58 [PATCH 08/13] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang

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