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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/46] Revert "fs: use RCU read side protection in d_validate"
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 11:44:13 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101209004413.GB32766@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101208093824.GA3151@amd>

On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 08:38:24PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 08, 2010 at 12:16:56PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 27, 2010 at 08:56:03PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > This reverts commit 3825bdb7ed920845961f32f364454bee5f469abb.
> > > 
> > > Patch is broken, you can't dget() without holding any locks!
> > 
> > I believe you can - for the same reasons we can take a reference to
> > an inode without holding the inode_lock. That is, as long as the
> > caller already holds an active reference to the dentry,
> > dget() can be used to take another reference without needing the
> > dcache_lock.
> > 
> > Such usage appears to be described in the comment above dget() and
> > there's a BUG_ON() in dget() to catch callers that don't already
> > have an active reference. An example of a valid unlocked dget():
> > d_alloc() does an unlocked dget() to take a reference to the parent
> > dentry whichn we already are guaranteed to have a reference to.
> 
> Of course you can dget if you already have a reference :)

Right, so the commit message is wrong. Can you update it to tell us why
dget() can't be used there - the commit message from the second
patch explained it far better....

> > As to d_validate() - it depends on the caller behaviour as to
> > whether the unlocked dget() is valid or not.  From a cursory check
> > of the NCP and SMB readdir caches, both appear to hold an active
> > reference to the dentry it is passing to d_validate().
> 
> I don't see where? Can you point to where the refcount is taken?
> AFAIKS it drops the reference 3 lines after it puts the pointer
> into cache.

Yeah, you're right, I missed that one - I spent more tiem checking
the validation part of the code than the initial insertion. Hence
my request:

> > If that is
> > the case then there is nothing wrong with the way d_validate uses
> > dget(). Can someone with more SMB/NCP expertise than me validate the
> > use of cached dentries?
> 
> Then why would it have to use d_validate if it has a reference?
> That is supposed to be for an "untrusted" pointer (which is why
> it had all the crazy checks that it's in kmem and in the right
> slab etc).

Code changes. It may not be doing what it was originally
needed/intended to be doing - I don't need to waste time on code
archeology and second guessing when there are others around that can
tell me this off the top oftheir head. ;)

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-09  0:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-27 10:15 [PATCH 00/46] rcu-walk and dcache scaling Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 02/46] fs: d_validate fixes Nick Piggin
2010-12-08  1:53   ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08  6:59     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  0:50       ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09  4:50         ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 03/46] kernel: kmem_ptr_validate considered harmful Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 04/46] fs: dcache documentation cleanup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 05/46] fs: change d_delete semantics Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 06/46] cifs: dont overwrite dentry name in d_revalidate Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 07/46] jfs: " Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 08/46] fs: change d_compare for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 09/46] fs: change d_hash " Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 10/46] hostfs: simplify locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 11/46] fs: dcache scale hash Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  6:09   ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09  6:28     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  8:17       ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 12:53         ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 23:42           ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-10  2:35             ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-10  9:01               ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-13  4:48                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-13  5:05                 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 12/46] fs: dcache scale lru Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  7:22   ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 12:34     ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 13/46] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 14/46] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 15/46] fs: dcache scale subdirs Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 16/46] fs: scale inode alias list Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 17/46] fs: Use rename lock and RCU for multi-step operations Nick Piggin
2011-01-18 22:32   ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-18 22:42     ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-19 22:27       ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-19 22:32         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-25 22:10           ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-27  5:18             ` Nick Piggin
2011-02-07 18:52               ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-07 21:04                 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-02-07 21:31                   ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-07 22:25                   ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-14 17:57               ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 18/46] fs: increase d_name lock coverage Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 19/46] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 20/46] fs: dcache avoid starvation in dcache multi-step operations Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 21/46] fs: dcache reduce dput locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 22/46] fs: dcache reduce locking in d_alloc Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 23/46] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 24/46] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 25/46] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 26/46] fs: dcache reduce prune_one_dentry locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 27/46] fs: reduce dcache_inode_lock width in lru scanning Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 28/46] fs: use RCU in shrink_dentry_list to reduce lock nesting Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:44 ` [PATCH 29/46] fs: consolidate dentry kill sequence Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 30/46] fs: icache RCU free inodes Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 31/46] fs: avoid inode RCU freeing for pseudo fs Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 32/46] kernel: optimise seqlock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 33/46] fs: rcu-walk for path lookup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 34/46] fs: fs_struct use seqlock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 35/46] fs: dcache remove d_mounted Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 36/46] fs: dcache reduce branches in lookup path Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 37/46] fs: cache optimise dentry and inode for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 38/46] fs: prefetch inode data in dcache lookup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 39/46] fs: d_revalidate_rcu for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 40/46] fs: provide rcu-walk aware permission i_ops Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 41/46] fs: provide simple rcu-walk ACL implementation Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 42/46] kernel: add bl_list Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 43/46] bit_spinlock: add required includes Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 44/46] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 45/46] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:45 ` [PATCH 46/46] fs: improve scalability of pseudo filesystems Nick Piggin
2010-11-27  9:56 ` [PATCH 01/46] Revert "fs: use RCU read side protection in d_validate" Nick Piggin
2010-12-08  1:16   ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08  9:38     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  0:44       ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-12-09  4:38         ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09  5:16           ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 15:04 ` [PATCH 00/46] rcu-walk and dcache scaling Anca Emanuel
2010-11-28  3:28   ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-28  6:24     ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-01 18:03 ` David Miller
2010-12-03 16:55   ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 11:25 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-07 15:24   ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 15:49     ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-07 15:59       ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 16:23         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08  3:28     ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 21:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08  1:47   ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-08  3:32     ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08  4:28       ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08  7:09         ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-10 20:32           ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-12 14:54             ` Paul E. McKenney

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