From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
To: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>, Nick Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/46] fs: dcache scale hash
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:48:34 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101213044834.GA8509@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101210090126.GH8259@dastard>
On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 08:01:26PM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 01:35:20PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 10:42:58AM +1100, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2010 at 11:53:27PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> > > > Necessary changes to prevent bad ugliness resulting, or preventing
> > > > repeated steps for the particular changes, etc. of course. Killing un
> > > > related functions no.
> > >
> > > Ok, I get the picture. You don't want a code review, you want a
> > > rubber stamp. Find someone else to get it from.
> >
> > Of course I want code review. I am not going to just do everything
> > you say that I don't agree with, but I will explain why every time
> > (as I have done to all your points).
>
> Which generally comes down to "I disagree with you". That's hard to
> argue against because you aren't willing to compromise.
I have been trying to explain my reasoning. For example, the suggestion
to change _d_rehash and to put by-address ordering of locking 2 dentries
in its own function I simply said that I don't want to pull in such
changes because they're not related or really touched by the patches.
I think that's reasonable, and so if I have a reasonable objection to a
minor issue, then I think we should get past it.
> So, to address your next comment, I'll restate what I was proposing.
> That is, to ensure all the d_flags accesses protected by d_lock as
> an initial patch rather than cleaning it up in an ad-hoc fashion
> later on, such as this later patch in your series:
>
> [PATCH 14/46] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed
>
> which has the description:
>
> Protect d_unhashed(dentry) condition with d_lock.
>
> which illustrates my point that not all accesses to d_flags are
> currently protected by d_lock as you are asserting. Hence:
It depends what you mean by accesses to d_flags.
No, not all of them are, because there are in fact some cases
where d_flags is read without any locking, when races don't matter
or aren't applicable.
But all writes to d_flags, in code where the dentry is live and
there can be concurrent writes to d_flags *are* protected by d_lock.
d_unhashed() is defined to:
Returns true if the dentry passed is not currently hashed.
So what I have called the d_unhashed condition, I mean the combination
of DCACHE_UNHASHED and dentry membership on the hash list.
I'll improve that changelog because now you've brought it to my
attention I agree it's not very good.
> > I would prefer more in-depth review than from someone who doesn't know
> > d_lock protects d_flags,
>
> Your implication about my competence is incorrect and entirely
Well you said that my patch adds d_flags protection in bits and
pieces in a random manner. d_flags is already protected by d_lock
upstream which I explained (nicely).
> inappropriate. Ad hominen attacks don't improve your argument or
> encourage other people to review your code.
Well you keep escalating it too, like you swore at me when I try
several times to explain an issue.
http://marc.info/?l=linux-fsdevel&m=129193745921777&w=2
> > but any and all help is welcome. Even minor
> > nitpicking or cleanups are welcome if they are relevant to the patches.
>
> If _you_ decide they are relevant.
There is give an take.
> Nick, in the past couple of months you've burnt everyone who has
> tried to review your changes in any meaningful way. Nobody wants to
> engage with you because you've aggressively disagreed with every
> significant change that has been requested. You have shown no desire
> to compromise, instead you argue that you are right until you've had
> the last word, and you have frequently resorted to condesending and
> disrespectful attacks on reviewers. You would do well to keep that
> in mind next time you wonder why nobody is stepping up to review
> your code.
This is exactly what you and Christoph did, to me, actually. And you're
wrong, nobody was reviewing my code long before that little episode. I
certainly did compromise with Al, regarding the merging of the inode
lock stuff, and although I disagreed with some parts, I said OK fine.
You can't seem to concede a single time that I am right or have a valid
point. The best you can possibly manage to to go silent (and then maybe
bring it up again a few weeks later). This is perhaps why I appear so
insolent, because when I disagree with you, I'm wrong so my reasoning
must be irrelevant. It just keeps happening (recently again with the vfs
percpu counters thread).
So as far as I can see, there never was a bridge there to begin with. I
wish we could work together because I don't in fact question your
competence or intelligence, but it seems you do mine.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-12-13 4:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-11-27 10:15 [PATCH 00/46] rcu-walk and dcache scaling Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 02/46] fs: d_validate fixes Nick Piggin
2010-12-08 1:53 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08 6:59 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 0:50 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 4:50 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 03/46] kernel: kmem_ptr_validate considered harmful Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 04/46] fs: dcache documentation cleanup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 05/46] fs: change d_delete semantics Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 06/46] cifs: dont overwrite dentry name in d_revalidate Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 07/46] jfs: " Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 08/46] fs: change d_compare for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 09/46] fs: change d_hash " Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 10/46] hostfs: simplify locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 11/46] fs: dcache scale hash Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 6:09 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 6:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 8:17 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 12:53 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 23:42 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-10 2:35 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-10 9:01 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-13 4:48 ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2010-12-13 5:05 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 12/46] fs: dcache scale lru Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 7:22 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 12:34 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 13/46] fs: dcache scale dentry refcount Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 14/46] fs: dcache scale d_unhashed Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 15/46] fs: dcache scale subdirs Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 16/46] fs: scale inode alias list Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 17/46] fs: Use rename lock and RCU for multi-step operations Nick Piggin
2011-01-18 22:32 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-18 22:42 ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-19 22:27 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-19 22:32 ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-25 22:10 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-01-27 5:18 ` Nick Piggin
2011-02-07 18:52 ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-07 21:04 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2011-02-07 21:31 ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-07 22:25 ` Jim Schutt
2011-02-14 17:57 ` Yehuda Sadeh Weinraub
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 18/46] fs: increase d_name lock coverage Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 19/46] fs: dcache remove dcache_lock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 20/46] fs: dcache avoid starvation in dcache multi-step operations Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 21/46] fs: dcache reduce dput locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 22/46] fs: dcache reduce locking in d_alloc Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 23/46] fs: dcache reduce dcache_inode_lock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 24/46] fs: dcache rationalise dget variants Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 25/46] fs: dcache reduce d_parent locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 26/46] fs: dcache reduce prune_one_dentry locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 27/46] fs: reduce dcache_inode_lock width in lru scanning Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 28/46] fs: use RCU in shrink_dentry_list to reduce lock nesting Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:44 ` [PATCH 29/46] fs: consolidate dentry kill sequence Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 30/46] fs: icache RCU free inodes Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 31/46] fs: avoid inode RCU freeing for pseudo fs Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 32/46] kernel: optimise seqlock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 33/46] fs: rcu-walk for path lookup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 34/46] fs: fs_struct use seqlock Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 35/46] fs: dcache remove d_mounted Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 36/46] fs: dcache reduce branches in lookup path Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 37/46] fs: cache optimise dentry and inode for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 38/46] fs: prefetch inode data in dcache lookup Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 39/46] fs: d_revalidate_rcu for rcu-walk Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 40/46] fs: provide rcu-walk aware permission i_ops Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 41/46] fs: provide simple rcu-walk ACL implementation Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 42/46] kernel: add bl_list Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 43/46] bit_spinlock: add required includes Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 44/46] fs: dcache per-bucket dcache hash locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 45/46] fs: dcache per-inode inode alias locking Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:45 ` [PATCH 46/46] fs: improve scalability of pseudo filesystems Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 9:56 ` [PATCH 01/46] Revert "fs: use RCU read side protection in d_validate" Nick Piggin
2010-12-08 1:16 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08 9:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 0:44 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-09 4:38 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-09 5:16 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-27 15:04 ` [PATCH 00/46] rcu-walk and dcache scaling Anca Emanuel
2010-11-28 3:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-11-28 6:24 ` Sedat Dilek
2010-12-01 18:03 ` David Miller
2010-12-03 16:55 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 11:25 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-07 15:24 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 15:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-07 15:59 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 16:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-08 3:28 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-07 21:56 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08 1:47 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-08 3:32 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08 4:28 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-08 7:09 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-10 20:32 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-12-12 14:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
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