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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: "Yan, Zheng" <zheng.z.yan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/35] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers
Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 21:00:18 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101214130018.GA19424@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101214070005.GB6940@localhost>

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 03:00:05PM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 09:21:19AM +0800, Yan Zheng wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:46 PM, Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com> wrote:
> > > This will noticeably reduce the fluctuaions of pause time when there are
> > > 100+ concurrent dirtiers.
> > >
> > > The more parallel dirtiers (1 dirtier => 4 dirtiers), the smaller
> > > bandwidth each dirtier will share (bdi_bandwidth => bdi_bandwidth/4),
> > > the less gap to the dirty limit ((C-A) => (C-B)), the less stable the
> > > pause time will be (given the same fluctuation of bdi_dirty).
> > >
> > > For example, if A drifts to A', its pause time may drift from 5ms to
> > > 6ms, while B to B' may drift from 50ms to 90ms.  It's much larger
> > > fluctuations in relative ratio as well as absolute time.
> > >
> > > Fig.1 before patch, gap (C-B) is too low to get smooth pause time
> > >
> > > throttle_bandwidth_A = bdi_bandwidth .........o
> > >                                              | o <= A'
> > >                                              |   o
> > >                                              |     o
> > >                                              |       o
> > >                                              |         o
> > > throttle_bandwidth_B = bdi_bandwidth / 4 .....|...........o
> > >                                              |           | o <= B'
> > > ----------------------------------------------+-----------+---o
> > >                                              A           B   C
> > >
> > > The solution is to lower the slope of the throttle line accordingly,
> > > which makes B stabilize at some point more far away from C.
> > >
> > > Fig.2 after patch
> > >
> > > throttle_bandwidth_A = bdi_bandwidth .........o
> > >                                              | o <= A'
> > >                                              |   o
> > >                                              |     o
> > >    lowered max throttle bandwidth for B ===> *       o
> > >                                              |   *     o
> > > throttle_bandwidth_B = bdi_bandwidth / 4 .............*   o
> > >                                              |       |   * o
> > > ----------------------------------------------+-------+-------o
> > >                                              A       B       C
> > >
> > > Note that C is actually different points for 1-dirty and 4-dirtiers
> > > cases, but for easy graphing, we move them together.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> > > ---
> > >  mm/page-writeback.c |   16 +++++++++++++---
> > >  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c 2010-12-13 21:46:14.000000000 +0800
> > > +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c      2010-12-13 21:46:15.000000000 +0800
> > > @@ -587,6 +587,7 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > >        unsigned long background_thresh;
> > >        unsigned long dirty_thresh;
> > >        unsigned long bdi_thresh;
> > > +       unsigned long task_thresh;
> > >        unsigned long long bw;
> > >        unsigned long period;
> > >        unsigned long pause = 0;
> > > @@ -616,7 +617,7 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > >                        break;
> > >
> > >                bdi_thresh = bdi_dirty_limit(bdi, dirty_thresh, nr_dirty);
> > > -               bdi_thresh = task_dirty_limit(current, bdi_thresh);
> > > +               task_thresh = task_dirty_limit(current, bdi_thresh);
> > >
> > >                /*
> > >                 * In order to avoid the stacked BDI deadlock we need
> > > @@ -638,14 +639,23 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
> > >
> > >                bdi_update_bandwidth(bdi, start_time, bdi_dirty, bdi_thresh);
> > >
> > > -               if (bdi_dirty >= bdi_thresh || nr_dirty > dirty_thresh) {
> > > +               if (bdi_dirty >= task_thresh || nr_dirty > dirty_thresh) {
> > >                        pause = MAX_PAUSE;
> > >                        goto pause;
> > >                }
> > >
> > > +               /*
> > > +                * When bdi_dirty grows closer to bdi_thresh, it indicates more
> > > +                * concurrent dirtiers. Proportionally lower the max throttle
> > > +                * bandwidth. This will resist bdi_dirty from approaching to
> > > +                * close to task_thresh, and help reduce fluctuations of pause
> > > +                * time when there are lots of dirtiers.
> > > +                */
> > >                bw = bdi->write_bandwidth;
> > > -
> > >                bw = bw * (bdi_thresh - bdi_dirty);
> > > +               do_div(bw, bdi_thresh / BDI_SOFT_DIRTY_LIMIT + 1);
> > > +
> > > +               bw = bw * (task_thresh - bdi_dirty);
> > >                do_div(bw, bdi_thresh / TASK_SOFT_DIRTY_LIMIT + 1);
> > 
> > Maybe changing this line to "do_div(bw, task_thresh /
> > TASK_SOFT_DIRTY_LIMIT + 1);"
> > is more consistent.
> 
> I'll show you another consistency of "shape" :)
> 
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/slides/light-dirtier-control-line.svg
> http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/slides/heavy-dirtier-control-line.svg
> 
> In the above two figures, the overall control lines for light/heavy
> dirtier tasks have exactly the same shape -- it's merely shifted in
> the X axis direction. So the current form is actually more simple.

Sorry it's not the overall control lines that's simply shifted, but
the task control line.

bdi control line:
> > >                bw = bw * (bdi_thresh - bdi_dirty);
> > > +               do_div(bw, bdi_thresh / BDI_SOFT_DIRTY_LIMIT + 1);

task control line:
> > > +               bw = bw * (task_thresh - bdi_dirty);
> > >                do_div(bw, bdi_thresh / TASK_SOFT_DIRTY_LIMIT + 1);

The use of bdi_thresh in the last line makes sure all task control
lines are of the same slope.

Thanks,
Fengguang

  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-14 13:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13 14:46 [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 01/35] writeback: enabling gate limit for light dirtied bdi Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:43   ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13  3:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13  3:58       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 19:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-14  3:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 02/35] writeback: safety margin for bdi stat error Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:59   ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13  4:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 10:38       ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 10:41         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 03/35] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 04/35] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:37   ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-14 13:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:39         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 15:15             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:26               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:56           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-15 18:48       ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-17 13:07         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 05/35] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 06/35] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 07/35] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 08/35] writeback: user space think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 09/35] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 10/35] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 11/35] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 12/35] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14  1:21   ` Yan, Zheng
2010-12-14  7:00     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:00       ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 13/35] writeback: bdi base throttle bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 14/35] writeback: smoothed bdi dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 15/35] writeback: adapt max balance pause time to memory size Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 16/35] writeback: increase min pause time on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 18:23   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14  6:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 18:42       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 18:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:13           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 20:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:37               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 17/35] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16  5:17   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 18/35] writeback: start background writeback earlier Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16  5:37   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 19/35] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 20/35] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 21/35] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 22/35] writeback: trace global dirty page states Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  2:19   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  3:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  6:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-17  9:31       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 11:21       ` [PATCH] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 14:21         ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17 15:34         ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-17 15:42           ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-21  5:59         ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-21  9:39           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-30  3:15             ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/35] writeback: trace writeback_single_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 24/35] btrfs: dont call balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() on already dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 25/35] btrfs: lower the dirty balacing rate limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 26/35] btrfs: wait on too many nr_async_bios Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 27/35] nfs: livelock prevention is now done in VFS Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 28/35] nfs: writeback pages wait queue Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 29/35] nfs: in-commit pages accounting and " Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:15   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:40     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:57       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 15:07         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 30/35] nfs: heuristics to avoid commit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 20:53   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14  8:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 31/35] nfs: dont change wbc->nr_to_write in write_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:01   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 32/35] nfs: limit the range of commits Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 33/35] nfs: adapt congestion threshold to dirty threshold Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 34/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 35/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_release() Wu Fengguang
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2010-12-14  4:59   ` [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang

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