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From: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
To: P??draig Brady <P@draigBrady.com>
Cc: Am??rico Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	wharms@bfs.de, Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
	kernel-janitors@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace
Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:49:53 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101215094953.GG19804@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4CECFB19.1090003@draigBrady.com>

On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:46:33AM +0000, P??draig Brady wrote:

> Looks like gcc is following the standard exactly.
> 
> C90 - 6.5.7
> C99 - 6.7.8
> 
>   If there are fewer initializers in a brace-enclosed list than
>   there are elements or members of an aggregate ... the remainder
>   of the aggregate shall be initialized implicitly the same as
>   objects that have static storage duration.

Incorrect.  See 6.2.6.1 in C99; basically, padding bytes have unspecified
contents.  Implementation is allowed to leave them in any state (including
not bothering to copy them when doing struct assignments, etc.).  See
Appendix J (portability issues) as well.

The text you are quoting is about handling of missing initializers - it
essentially refers you back to the rules in 6.7.8p{9,10} (for arithmetical
types use zero, for pointers - null pointer, for arrays - apply recursively
to each array member, for structs - apply recursively for each named
member, for unions - apply recursively for the first named member).  That's
it - nothing in the standard says how to initialize padding.  Note that
these rules are _not_ guaranteed to be "fill everything with zero bits";
it often will be true, but it's implementation-dependent.  Implementation
may decide to fill padding with all-zeroes; it's not required to do so.

The bottom line: if you rely on that, you are relying on non-portable
details of compiler behaviour.  Moreover, the authors are not even
required to document what they are doing or to keep that behaviour
consistent.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-12-15  9:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-10 20:38 [PATCH] fs: select: fix information leak to userspace Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-12 20:08 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-13 21:38   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-14  9:25     ` [PATCH v2] " Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15  2:06       ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-15 19:12         ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-16 11:19           ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-22 23:50             ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  0:20               ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23  0:32                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23  5:12                   ` Dan Carpenter
2010-11-23  6:59                     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-11-23 14:01           ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 14:45             ` walter harms
2010-11-23 15:23               ` Américo Wang
2010-11-23 18:02               ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-23 20:18                 ` Andrew Morton
2010-11-23 20:22                   ` David Miller
2010-11-24  0:24                   ` Andreas Dilger
2010-11-24 16:06                   ` walter harms
2010-11-24 10:44                 ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 11:05                   ` Américo Wang
2010-11-24 11:46                     ` Pádraig Brady
2010-11-24 12:32                       ` Américo Wang
2010-12-15  9:49                       ` Al Viro [this message]
2010-12-15 20:30                         ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-15 20:33                           ` Julia Lawall
2010-12-15 20:52                             ` Eric Dumazet
2010-12-15 22:19                               ` Andreas Dilger
2010-12-16  9:39                                 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-11-24 17:54               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-11-16 18:45         ` Vasiliy Kulikov
2010-11-15  2:05     ` [PATCH] " Andrew Morton

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