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From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/35] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2010 13:17:22 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101216051722.GA9093@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20101213150328.407612632@intel.com>

This patch seems optional and won't improve things noticeably.
Even if we break out of the loop, the task will quickly return to
balance_dirty_pages() as long as the bdi is dirty_exceeded. So I'd
like to drop this patch for now.

Thanks,
Fengguang

On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:47:03PM +0800, Wu, Fengguang wrote:
> Tests show that bdi_thresh may take minutes to ramp up on a typical
> desktop. The time should be improvable but cannot be eliminated totally.
> So when (background_thresh + dirty_thresh)/2 is reached and
> balance_dirty_pages() starts to throttle the task, it will suddenly find
> the (still low and ramping up) bdi_thresh is exceeded _excessively_. Here
> we definitely don't want to stall the task for one minute (when it's
> writing to USB stick). So introduce an alternative way to break out of
> the loop when the bdi dirty/write pages has dropped by a reasonable
> amount.
> 
> It will at least pause for one loop before trying to break out.
> 
> The break is designed mainly to help the single task case. The break
> threshold is time for writing 125ms data, so that when the task slept
> for MAX_PAUSE=200ms, it will have good chance to break out. For NFS
> there may be only 1-2 completions of large COMMIT per second, in which
> case the task may still get stuck for 1s.
> 
> Note that this opens the chance that during normal operation, a huge
> number of slow dirtiers writing to a really slow device might manage to
> outrun bdi_thresh. But the risk is pretty low.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
> ---
>  mm/page-writeback.c |   19 +++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+)
> 
> --- linux-next.orig/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-12-13 21:46:16.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/mm/page-writeback.c	2010-12-13 21:46:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -693,6 +693,7 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
>  	long nr_dirty;
>  	long bdi_dirty;  /* = file_dirty + writeback + unstable_nfs */
>  	long avg_dirty;  /* smoothed bdi_dirty */
> +	long bdi_prev_dirty = 0;
>  	unsigned long background_thresh;
>  	unsigned long dirty_thresh;
>  	unsigned long bdi_thresh;
> @@ -749,6 +750,24 @@ static void balance_dirty_pages(struct a
>  
>  		bdi_update_bandwidth(bdi, start_time, bdi_dirty, bdi_thresh);
>  
> +		/*
> +		 * bdi_thresh takes time to ramp up from the initial 0,
> +		 * especially for slow devices.
> +		 *
> +		 * It's possible that at the moment dirty throttling starts,
> +		 *	bdi_dirty = nr_dirty
> +		 *		  = (background_thresh + dirty_thresh) / 2
> +		 *		  >> bdi_thresh
> +		 * Then the task could be blocked for many seconds to flush all
> +		 * the exceeded (bdi_dirty - bdi_thresh) pages. So offer a
> +		 * complementary way to break out of the loop when 125ms worth
> +		 * of dirty pages have been cleaned during our pause time.
> +		 */
> +		if (nr_dirty <= dirty_thresh &&
> +		    bdi_prev_dirty - bdi_dirty > (long)bdi->write_bandwidth / 8)
> +			break;
> +		bdi_prev_dirty = bdi_dirty;
> +
>  		avg_dirty = bdi->avg_dirty;
>  		if (avg_dirty < bdi_dirty || avg_dirty > task_thresh)
>  			avg_dirty = bdi_dirty;
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-12-16  5:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-13 14:46 [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 01/35] writeback: enabling gate limit for light dirtied bdi Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:43   ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13  3:44     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13  3:58       ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 19:26       ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-14  3:21         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 02/35] writeback: safety margin for bdi stat error Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:59   ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13  4:14     ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 10:38       ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 10:41         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 03/35] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 04/35] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:37   ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-14 13:59     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:33       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:39         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 15:15             ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:26               ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:56           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-15 18:48       ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-17 13:07         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 05/35] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 06/35] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 07/35] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 08/35] writeback: user space think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 09/35] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 10/35] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 11/35] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 12/35] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14  1:21   ` Yan, Zheng
2010-12-14  7:00     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:00       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 13/35] writeback: bdi base throttle bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 14/35] writeback: smoothed bdi dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 15/35] writeback: adapt max balance pause time to memory size Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 16/35] writeback: increase min pause time on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 18:23   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14  6:51     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 18:42       ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 18:55         ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:13           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 20:24             ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:37               ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 17/35] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16  5:17   ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 18/35] writeback: start background writeback earlier Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16  5:37   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 19/35] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 20/35] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 21/35] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 22/35] writeback: trace global dirty page states Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  2:19   ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  3:11     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17  6:52     ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-17  9:31       ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 11:21       ` [PATCH] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 14:21         ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17 15:34         ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-17 15:42           ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-21  5:59         ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-21  9:39           ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-30  3:15             ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/35] writeback: trace writeback_single_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 24/35] btrfs: dont call balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() on already dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 25/35] btrfs: lower the dirty balacing rate limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 26/35] btrfs: wait on too many nr_async_bios Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 27/35] nfs: livelock prevention is now done in VFS Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 28/35] nfs: writeback pages wait queue Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 29/35] nfs: in-commit pages accounting and " Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:15   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:40     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:57       ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 15:07         ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 30/35] nfs: heuristics to avoid commit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 20:53   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14  8:20     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 31/35] nfs: dont change wbc->nr_to_write in write_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:01   ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:53     ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 32/35] nfs: limit the range of commits Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 33/35] nfs: adapt congestion threshold to dirty threshold Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 34/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 35/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_release() Wu Fengguang
     [not found] ` <AANLkTinFeu7LMaDFgUcP3r2oqVHE5bei3T5JTPGBNvS9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-12-14  4:59   ` [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang

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