From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Olaf van der Spek <olafvdspek@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Atomic non-durable file write API
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 09:43:09 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20101223224309.GH18264@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=BW85d6VpGAt0KaGES+4dRQmsvRyFamE=ChEXE@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 04:49:53PM +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 5:39 PM, Olaf van der Spek <olafvdspek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Calvin Walton <calvin.walton@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Hmm. I’m doing a little interpretation of what Olaf said here; but I
> >> think you may have misunderstood the question?
> >>
> >> He doesn’t care about whether or not the file is securely written to
> >> disk (durable); however he doesn’t want to see any partially written
> >> files. In other words, something like
> >>
> >> 1. Write to temp file
> >> 2. Rename temp file over original file
> >
> > Meta data, including file owner, should be preserved.
> > Ideally, no temp files should be visible either.
> >
> >> Where the rename is only committed to disk once the entire contents of
> >> the file have been written securely – whenever that may eventually
> >> happen.
> >>
> >> He doesn’t want to synchronously wait for the file to be written,
> >> because the new data isn’t particularly important. The only important
> >> thing is that the file either contains the old or new data after a
> >> filesystem crash; not incomplete data. So, it’s more of an ordering
> >> problem, I think? (Analogous to putting some sort of barrier between the
> >> file write/close and the file rename to maintain ordering.)
> >>
> >> Hopefully I’ve interpreted the original question correctly, because this
> >> is something I would find interesting as well.
> >
> > Yes, you did.
>
> Somebody?
So you are looking for something like:
http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#DOCUMENTATION/Darwin/Reference/ManPages/man2/exchangedata.2.html
?
Cheers,
Dave.
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2010-12-09 12:03 ` Atomic non-durable file write API Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-16 12:22 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-16 20:11 ` Ric Wheeler
2010-12-18 22:15 ` Calvin Walton
2010-12-19 16:39 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-23 15:49 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-23 21:51 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-23 22:22 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 0:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 0:48 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 1:00 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 9:51 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 11:14 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-24 11:25 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-25 3:15 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-25 10:41 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 11:33 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-25 15:24 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 17:25 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-26 15:08 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 15:55 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-26 16:02 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:27 ` Boaz Harrosh
2010-12-26 18:26 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:43 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-26 18:51 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 22:10 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27 0:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27 1:04 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27 1:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27 2:53 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-27 10:21 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 11:07 ` Marco Stornelli
2010-12-27 15:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-27 19:07 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 19:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-28 17:22 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 20:59 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-28 22:00 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-12-28 22:06 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:15 ` Greg Freemyer
2010-12-28 22:28 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:35 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-29 11:05 ` Dave Chinner
2010-12-28 22:10 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 22:31 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-28 22:54 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 23:42 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-29 9:09 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-29 15:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-29 15:41 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-29 16:30 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-29 17:14 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-30 0:50 ` Neil Brown
2011-01-07 14:23 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 4:12 ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-27 11:48 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-27 12:43 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-28 0:45 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-24 11:21 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 11:17 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-24 11:29 ` Christian Stroetmann
2010-12-24 11:30 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-25 21:40 ` Neil Brown
2010-12-23 22:43 ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2010-12-23 22:47 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-26 9:59 ` Amir Goldstein
2010-12-26 15:23 ` Olaf van der Spek
2010-12-26 16:52 ` Nick Piggin
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