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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Nick Piggin <npiggin@kernel.dk>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	mfasheh@suse.com, joel.becker@oracle.com, swhiteho@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [patch 7/8] fs: fix or note I_DIRTY handling bugs in filesystems
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:13:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110104091347.GA2760@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110104075248.GB4090@amd>

On Tue, Jan 04, 2011 at 06:52:48PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote:
> Right if you want a helper to get the correct mask of bits required
> that's fine and I agree, but locking is a different issue too: if
> filesystems are trying to keep private state in sync with vfs state,
> then they _need_ to do it properly with the proper locking. I think
> your hfsplus implementation had a bug or two in this area didn't it?
> (although I ended up getting side tracked with all these bugs half
> way through looking at that).

It's not locking, but ordering that was the issue.  It's an issue caused
by the VFS interfaces, but not really related to the area you work
on currently.  If ->dirty_inode told us what was dirtied it would be
a lot simpler.  Alternatively we should just stop requiring filesystems
to participate in the I_DIRTY_SYNC/DATASYNC protocol.  In general it's
much easier for the filesystem to keep that state by itself in proper
granularity.  But I lost the fight to have the timestamp updates go
through proper methods instead of just writing into the VFS inode and
marking the inode dirty long ago, so we'll have to live with it.

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-04  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-12-18  1:46 [patch 0/8] Inode data integrity patches Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 1/8] fs: mark_inode_dirty barrier fix Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 2/8] fs: simple fsync race fix Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 3/8] fs: introduce inode writeback helpers Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 4/8] fs: preserve inode dirty bits on failed metadata writeback Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 5/8] fs: ext2 inode sync fix Nick Piggin
2011-01-07 19:08   ` Ted Ts'o
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 6/8] fs: fsync optimisations Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 7/8] fs: fix or note I_DIRTY handling bugs in filesystems Nick Piggin
2010-12-29 15:01   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-03 15:03     ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-01-03 16:58       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  7:12         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04 14:22         ` Steven Whitehouse
2011-01-04  6:04     ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  6:39       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  7:52         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  9:13           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2011-01-04  9:28             ` Nick Piggin
2010-12-18  1:46 ` [patch 8/8] fs: add i_op->sync_inode Nick Piggin
2010-12-29 15:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  6:27     ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  6:57       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  8:03         ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  8:31           ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  9:25             ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  9:52               ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-06 20:49                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07  4:48                   ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-07  7:25                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-11  3:44                       ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-04  9:25           ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-04  9:49             ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-06 20:45               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07  4:47                 ` Nick Piggin
2011-01-07  7:24                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07  7:29                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07 13:10                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07 18:30                       ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-07 18:32                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-01-07 19:06   ` Ted Ts'o

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