From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Christoph Hellwig Subject: Re: [patch 8/8] fs: add i_op->sync_inode Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:24:30 -0500 Message-ID: <20110107072430.GA32308@infradead.org> References: <20101218014634.943276411@kernel.dk> <20101218015117.759480620@kernel.dk> <20101229151246.GA22033@infradead.org> <20110104062725.GD3402@amd> <20110104065736.GA8013@infradead.org> <20110104080323.GC4090@amd> <20110104092501.GB2760@infradead.org> <20110104094922.GA4812@amd> <20110106204510.GA2872@infradead.org> <20110107044734.GA4552@amd> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Christoph Hellwig , linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton To: Nick Piggin Return-path: Received: from bombadil.infradead.org ([18.85.46.34]:49400 "EHLO bombadil.infradead.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752541Ab1AGHYb (ORCPT ); Fri, 7 Jan 2011 02:24:31 -0500 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110107044734.GA4552@amd> Sender: linux-fsdevel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Fri, Jan 07, 2011 at 03:47:34PM +1100, Nick Piggin wrote: > No, you misunderstand 1. I am saying they should be treated as > WB_SYNC_NONE. > > In fact 2 would cause much more IO, because dirty writeout would > never clean them so it will just keep writing them out. I don't > know how 2 could be feasible. WB_SYNC_NONE means ->write_inode behaves non-blocking. That is we do not block on memory allocations, and we do not take locks blocking. Most journaling filesystems currently take the easy way out an make it a no-op due to that, but take a look at XFS how complicated it is to avoid the blocking if you want a non-noop implementation. > So, back to my original question: what is the performance problem > with treating write_inode as WB_SYNC_NONE, and then having .fsync > and .sync_fs do the integrity? See above - we'll block in the flusher thread and cause it to stall, which is really nasty as it does all data I/O writeback. The salling may also block sync() although I don't think it's as important there.