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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>
Cc: Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>,
	device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	Jun'ichi Nomura <j-nomura@ce.jp.nec.com>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] linux-next - WARNING: at fs/block_dev.c:824 bd_link_disk_holder+0x92/0x1ac()
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:11:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110113141107.GI30719@htj.dyndns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4D2F04FF.1070309@redhat.com>

Hello,

On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 02:58:23PM +0100, Milan Broz wrote:
> On 01/13/2011 02:37 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> 
> > So, just don't do it.  Sysfs is for device hierarchy.  Don't try to
> > shove pretty looking things there (unless it's something widely agreed
> > on and necessary, of course).
> 
> I think that it is exactly what holders/slaves do - displaying device
> hierarchy. So application can check which underlying device are related
> and ask them for more info if needed (=> with system specific call,
> it can be simple sysfs attribute, ioctl, whatever).

Yeah, sure but in a completely unrestrained and non-standard way.
First of all, it wasn't even necessary to begin with and I don't
really see anyone else other than md/dm using it.  I mean, where are
you gonna you put that slaves directory?  Sure you can put it
somewhere but really it would be just that - somewhere.  All this
doesn't even matter.  It wasn't even necessary to begin with.

> So the only request here is to keep these symlinks correct, nothing more.
> Or am I missing anything?

Yeah, I'm fixing that.  Don't worry.  I just wanna say it wasn't such
a brilliant idea to add it in the first place and hope that people
would restrain from doing similar things in the future.

So, as a general rule, when in doubt, just create an attribute.  Let's
refrain from custom symlinkery in sysfs, please.  In this case too, a
holder attribute containing strings like ext[3|4], md, dm or whatnot
would have been _much_ simpler and actually more useful.

Thank you.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-13 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-12 17:34 linux-next - WARNING: at fs/block_dev.c:824 bd_link_disk_holder+0x92/0x1ac() Valdis.Kletnieks
2011-01-13  0:23 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13  2:19   ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-13 11:06     ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 11:26       ` [dm-devel] " Milan Broz
2011-01-13 12:27         ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 13:12           ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:26             ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 13:37               ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:52                 ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 13:58                 ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13 14:11                   ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2011-01-13 14:25                     ` Milan Broz
2011-01-13 14:30                       ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 14:43                         ` Kay Sievers
2011-01-13 15:03                           ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14  7:38                             ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-13 15:59                           ` Karel Zak
2011-01-13 16:10                             ` [dm-devel] " Kay Sievers
2011-01-14 15:07                               ` Karel Zak
2011-01-14 15:23                                 ` Kay Sievers
2011-01-13 14:45                         ` Theodore Tso
2011-01-13 20:18                           ` NeilBrown
2011-01-13 20:41                             ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-14 16:20                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                               ` <20110114162022.GC978@htj.dyndns.org>
2011-01-14 17:59                                 ` Ted Ts'o
2011-01-14 18:23                                   ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 14:49                         ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14 16:35                           ` Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 17:21     ` [PATCH] block: restore multiple bd_link_disk_holder() support Tejun Heo
2011-01-13 18:42       ` Milan Broz
2011-01-14  7:31         ` Jun'ichi Nomura
2011-01-14 16:10           ` [PATCH UPDATED] " Tejun Heo
2011-01-14 21:09             ` Milan Broz
2011-01-17  0:18               ` Jun'ichi Nomura

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