From: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@netapp.com>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@jp.fujitsu.com>,
Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@gmail.com>,
linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/35] writeback: enabling gate limit for light dirtied bdi
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:21:22 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110114032122.GB4111@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1294946770.30950.19.camel@laptop>
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On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 03:26:10AM +0800, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 11:44 +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > When testing 10-disk JBOD setup, I
> > find that bdi_dirty_limit fluctuations too much. So I'm considering
> > use global_dirty_limit as control target.
>
> Is this because the bandwidth is equal or larger than the dirty period?
The patchset will call ->writepages(N) with
N=rounddown_pow_of_two(bdi->write_bandwidth). XFS will then typically
do endio batches in the same amount. I see in practice XFS's
xfs_end_io() work get queued and executed ~2 times per second,
normally clearing 32MB worth of PG_writeback. I guess this is one
major source of fluctuation.
The attached XFS graphs can confirm this. The "written" and
"writeback" curves are skipping at 32MB size.
As for the dirty period,
calc_period_shift()
= 2 + ilog2(dirty_total - 1)
= 2 + ilog2(380000) # a 8GB test box, 20% dirty_ratio
= 19
So period = (1 << 18) = 256k pages = 1GB. It's much larger than 32MB.
(Please correct me if wrong).
The problem is not limited to XFS. ext2/ext3/ext4 are also fluctuating
in a range up to bdi->write_bandwidth.
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/tests/16G-10HDD-JBOD/ext2-fio-jbod-sync-128k-24p-15977M-2.6.37-rc8-dt5+-2010-12-31-19-36/balance_dirty_pages-pages.png
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/wfg/writeback/tests/16G-10HDD-JBOD/ext4_wb-fio-jbod-sync-128k-24p-15977M-2.6.37-rc8-dt5+-2010-12-31-12-24/balance_dirty_pages-pages.png
I noticed (ext2/ext3 graphs attached) that they are clearing
PG_writeback in much smaller batches at least in 1-disk case.
However the writeback pages can go low for 1-2 times in every 10
seconds.
Thanks,
Fengguang
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-12-13 14:46 [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 01/35] writeback: enabling gate limit for light dirtied bdi Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:43 ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 3:44 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 3:58 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 19:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-01-14 3:21 ` Wu Fengguang [this message]
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 02/35] writeback: safety margin for bdi stat error Wu Fengguang
2011-01-12 21:59 ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 4:14 ` Wu Fengguang
2011-01-13 10:38 ` Jan Kara
2011-01-13 10:41 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 03/35] writeback: prevent duplicate balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() calls Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 04/35] writeback: reduce per-bdi dirty threshold ramp up time Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:37 ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-14 13:59 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:33 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 15:15 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:26 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 14:56 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-15 18:48 ` Richard Kennedy
2010-12-17 13:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 05/35] writeback: IO-less balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 06/35] writeback: consolidate variable names in balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 07/35] writeback: per-task rate limit on balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 08/35] writeback: user space think time compensation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 09/35] writeback: account per-bdi accumulated written pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 10/35] writeback: bdi write bandwidth estimation Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 11/35] writeback: show bdi write bandwidth in debugfs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 12/35] writeback: scale down max throttle bandwidth on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 1:21 ` Yan, Zheng
2010-12-14 7:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 13:00 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:46 ` [PATCH 13/35] writeback: bdi base throttle bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 14/35] writeback: smoothed bdi dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 15/35] writeback: adapt max balance pause time to memory size Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 16/35] writeback: increase min pause time on concurrent dirtiers Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 18:23 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 6:51 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 18:42 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 18:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:13 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-14 20:24 ` Peter Zijlstra
2010-12-14 20:37 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 17/35] writeback: quit throttling when bdi dirty pages dropped low Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16 5:17 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 18/35] writeback: start background writeback earlier Wu Fengguang
2010-12-16 5:37 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 19/35] writeback: make nr_to_write a per-file limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 20/35] writeback: scale IO chunk size up to device bandwidth Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 21/35] writeback: trace balance_dirty_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 22/35] writeback: trace global dirty page states Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 2:19 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 3:11 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 6:52 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-17 9:31 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 11:21 ` [PATCH] writeback: skip balance_dirty_pages() for in-memory fs Wu Fengguang
2010-12-17 14:21 ` Rik van Riel
2010-12-17 15:34 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-17 15:42 ` Minchan Kim
2010-12-21 5:59 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-21 9:39 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-30 3:15 ` Hugh Dickins
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 23/35] writeback: trace writeback_single_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 24/35] btrfs: dont call balance_dirty_pages_ratelimited() on already dirty pages Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 25/35] btrfs: lower the dirty balacing rate limit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 26/35] btrfs: wait on too many nr_async_bios Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 27/35] nfs: livelock prevention is now done in VFS Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 28/35] nfs: writeback pages wait queue Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 29/35] nfs: in-commit pages accounting and " Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:15 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:40 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-14 15:57 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-15 15:07 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 30/35] nfs: heuristics to avoid commit Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 20:53 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 8:20 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 31/35] nfs: dont change wbc->nr_to_write in write_inode() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 21:01 ` Trond Myklebust
2010-12-14 15:53 ` Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 32/35] nfs: limit the range of commits Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 33/35] nfs: adapt congestion threshold to dirty threshold Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 34/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_unstable_pages() Wu Fengguang
2010-12-13 14:47 ` [PATCH 35/35] nfs: trace nfs_commit_release() Wu Fengguang
[not found] ` <AANLkTinFeu7LMaDFgUcP3r2oqVHE5bei3T5JTPGBNvS9@mail.gmail.com>
2010-12-14 4:59 ` [PATCH 00/35] IO-less dirty throttling v4 Wu Fengguang
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