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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>
Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@us.ibm.com>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger@dilger.ca>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mingming Cao <mcao@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] block integrity: Fix write after checksum calculation problem
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:47:50 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110223234750.GM3166@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq1vd0awwfh.fsf@sermon.lab.mkp.net>

On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:24:50AM -0500, Martin K. Petersen wrote:
> >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> writes:
> 
> >> Agreed.  I too am curious to study which circumstances favor copying
> >> vs blocking.
> 
> Dave> IMO blocking is generally preferable in high throughput threaded
> Dave> workloads as there is always another thread that can do useful
> Dave> work while we wait for IO to complete. Most use cases for DIF
> Dave> center around high throughput environments....
> 
> Yeah.
> 
> A while back I did a bunch of tests with a liberal amount of
> wait_on_page_writeback() calls added to (I think) ext2, ext3, and
> XFS. For my regular workloads there was no measurable change (kernel
> builds, random database and I/O tests). I'm sure we'll unearth some apps
> that will suffer when DI is on but so far I'm not too worried about
> blocking in the data path.
> 
> My main concern is wrt. metadata because that's where extN really
> hurts. Simple test: Unpack a kernel tarball and watch the directory
> block fireworks. Given how frequently those buffers get hit I'm sure
> blocking would cause performance to tank completely. I looked into
> fixing this in ext2 but I had to stop because my eyes were bleeding.

Not problems with metadata modifications for XFS - all metadata IO
is done with a lock held preventing modifications while IO is in
progress.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

  reply	other threads:[~2011-02-23 23:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-22  2:00 [RFC] block integrity: Fix write after checksum calculation problem Darrick J. Wong
2011-02-22  5:45 ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-02-22 11:42   ` Jan Kara
2011-02-22 13:02     ` Chris Mason
2011-02-22 19:13       ` Boaz Harrosh
2011-03-04 20:51     ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-04 20:53       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-02-22 16:13 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-02-22 16:40   ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-02-22 19:45   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-02-22 22:53     ` Dave Chinner
2011-02-23 16:24       ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-02-23 23:47         ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2011-02-24 16:43         ` Jan Kara
2011-02-28  8:49   ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-02-22 16:45 ` Martin K. Petersen
2011-02-23 20:24   ` Joel Becker
2011-02-23 20:35     ` Chris Mason
2011-02-23 21:42       ` Joel Becker
2011-02-24 16:47       ` Jan Kara
2011-02-24 17:37         ` Chris Mason
2011-02-24 18:27           ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-02-28 12:54             ` Chris Mason
2011-03-04 21:07               ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-04 22:22                 ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-07 19:11                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-07 21:12                 ` Chris Mason
2011-03-08  4:56                 ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-10 23:57                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-11 16:34                     ` Chris Mason
2011-03-11 18:51                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-19  0:07                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-19  2:28                     ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-22 19:23                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-03-22 21:54                         ` Jan Kara
2011-03-21 14:04                     ` Jan Kara
2011-03-21 14:24                       ` Chris Mason
2011-03-21 16:43                         ` Jan Kara
2011-04-06 23:29                           ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-07 16:44                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-07 16:57                             ` Jan Kara
2011-04-08 20:31                               ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-11 16:42                                 ` Jeff Layton
2011-04-11 17:41                                   ` Chris Mason
2011-04-11 18:25                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-11 18:38                                       ` Chris Mason
2011-04-12  0:46                                     ` Mingming Cao
2011-04-12  0:57                                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-04-14  0:48                                         ` Mingming Cao
2011-04-22  0:02                                           ` [RFC v2] block integrity: Stabilize(?) pages during writeback Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-22 12:50                                             ` Chris Mason
2011-04-22 20:34                                               ` Jan Kara
2011-04-26  0:37                                                 ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-26 11:33                                                   ` Chris Mason
2011-05-03  1:59                                                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04  1:26                                                       ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-04-26 11:37                                                   ` Jan Kara
2011-05-04 17:37                                             ` [PATCH v3 0/3] data integrity: Stabilize pages during writeback for ext4 Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04 18:46                                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2011-05-04 19:21                                                 ` Chris Mason
2011-05-04 20:00                                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04 23:57                                                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-05 15:26                                                     ` Jan Kara
2011-05-04 17:39                                             ` [PATCH v3 1/3] ext4: Clean up some wait_on_page_writeback calls Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04 17:41                                             ` [PATCH v3 2/3] ext4: Wait for writeback to complete while making pages writable Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04 17:42                                             ` [PATCH v3 3/3] mm: Wait for writeback when grabbing pages to begin a write Darrick J. Wong
2011-05-04 18:48                                               ` Christoph Hellwig

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