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From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Indan Zupancic <indan-1J6HnF7K7zE@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>,
	Sage Weil <sage-BnTBU8nroG7k1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Aneesh Kumar K. V"
	<aneesh.kumar-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org,
	viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org,
	hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org, l@jasper.es
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2011 20:10:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110312021001.GA16833@elie> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9446ab1a2315c0d2476c30f8315a0503.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>

Indan Zupancic wrote:

> I'm not pushing for any official convention, just what seems good taste.

In cases like this, conventions (consistency and best practices) are
very important.

> Less code added, less bloat. Architecture independent, no need to update
> all system call tables everywhere (all archs, libc versions and strace).
> Two files changed, instead of 7 (which only hooks up x86).

Thanks for explaining.  Those do seem like good reasons to use a ioctl
instead of a new syscall.

> In this case it's just a performance improvement over sync(2). It doesn't
> add a new feature. Main argument given for the performance problem seems
> to be "NFS can be slow". Anything else?

Huh?  It is not just the speed of the sync --- unnecessary writeback
will cause wear on your thumbdrive, eat up your laptop battery, and
kill I/O performance in other tasks running at the same time.

I'm afraid I don't understand what you're saying here at all.  Would
you say that fsync is superfluous, too?

Jonathan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-12  2:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-03  6:35 [RFC] introduce sys_syncat to sync a single file system Sage Weil
     [not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1102171035220.13904-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-03  7:22   ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-03  8:54     ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
     [not found]       ` <87bp1sziqn.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-07 23:17         ` [RFC] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system (v2) Sage Weil
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103071515070.11152-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-08  5:27             ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
     [not found]               ` <8762ruchcr.fsf-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 14:56                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201103101556.44698.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-10 19:28                     ` Sage Weil
2011-03-10 19:31           ` [PATCH v3] introduce sys_syncfs to sync a single file system Sage Weil
2011-03-10 22:08             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]             ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103101125150.4190-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11  4:44               ` Aneesh Kumar K. V
2011-03-11 11:01             ` Indan Zupancic
     [not found]               ` <edfa4cf081249734807e582c14253fca.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 11:55                 ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                   ` <201103111255.44979.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-11 23:45                     ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-11 23:56                       ` Jonathan Nieder
2011-03-12  1:53                         ` Indan Zupancic
     [not found]                           ` <9446ab1a2315c0d2476c30f8315a0503.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12  2:10                             ` Jonathan Nieder [this message]
2011-03-12  4:22                               ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 17:32                               ` Greg KH
     [not found]                                 ` <20110312173217.GA24981-U8xfFu+wG4EAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14  1:56                                   ` Indan Zupancic
     [not found]                                     ` <1e597aedd3d7825dcc0630b1cf2399fa.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14  4:29                                       ` Sage Weil
2011-03-14  9:27                                         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14 10:22                                           ` Theodore Tso
     [not found]                                         ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103132114380.5145-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-15 10:11                                           ` Dave Chinner
2011-03-15 13:00                                             ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 15:56                                             ` Andreas Dilger
2011-03-15 16:08                                               ` Sage Weil
2011-03-15 20:18                                               ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:10                                       ` Andrew Morton
2011-03-14 20:29                                         ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14 21:11                                         ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:20                                           ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]                                             ` <20110314142032.b9523309.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14 23:17                                               ` Ted Ts'o
2011-03-14 21:22                                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-12  0:40                       ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]                         ` <4D7AC0FE.8070806-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12  1:33                           ` Indan Zupancic
     [not found]                             ` <1d4d1b7ae64da97f44cad0e2bda4f832.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12  2:52                               ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]                                 ` <4D7ADFDD.9080108-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12  3:50                                   ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 12:41                                     ` Ric Wheeler
     [not found]                                     ` <e118a1458c29e4f44bf71c7095e4bce8.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-12 18:31                                       ` Jeff Garzik
2011-03-14  1:31                                         ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  1:37                                           ` Theodore Tso
2011-03-14  1:47                                             ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-14  1:45                                           ` Jeff Garzik
     [not found]                                             ` <4D7D7325.2040708-o2qLIJkoznsdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14  1:59                                               ` Indan Zupancic
2011-03-12 19:28                                       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-12 19:22                               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-14  1:38                                 ` Indan Zupancic
     [not found]                                   ` <3cc2c5c6fa6b3bd384017ae95a4241ab.squirrel-2RFepEojUI3wYrDfM2ltn5vKXLoBo5SK@public.gmane.org>
2011-03-14  5:52                                     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2011-03-13 20:59             ` Christoph Hellwig

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